Thiel Owners

tonywinga

I concur about Stanley Clarke discs being excellent tools for system evaluation. His CD/SACD titles are well-produced, well- recorded.
Have fun!


Happy Listening!

tonywinga, 

I understand now what you meant by bass improvement. Most people just mean more or harder impact and subs will do both for you. 

I am listening to the Stanley Clarke “East River Drive” album now listening for what you describe (new music to me thanks!). It is very subtle and I wonder if that “skin” sound is actually a little higher up in frequency as a secondary sound. 


I turned off my subs and high-passed the mains at 135hz and I feel like I could still hear it. Broke out the digital EQ and it might be in the 200-500k range. Hard to say and the detail is very low level. 


I switched over to a pair of Grado PS500e which I often hear that type of stuff on. I could hear it on the headphones but it did not stand out any more. I expected it too on headphones as they are more detailed in the bass. 


I think this type of detail retrieval is getting into super speaker territory and will cost a lot of money lol. 


Heavy room treatments (I see you have treated a bit already) with wide band absorption on the side walls might help pull that kind of stuff out more. Something like a high number of GIK 244 panels or even something thicker as reflection panels to knock down the bass reverb. 

Some music to try. Not really what I like to listen to musically but it has amazing detail and texture. 

Dominique Fils-Aime’ “Nameless” album. This album is demo worth and has the same type of low level details and texture in the drums/bass. I think you will find the audiophile aspects of it pretty good…

To make sure we are talking the same thing- on the first track, the bass drum comes in at 28 seconds.  It is a double tap through out the song.  
I listened to some of the Nameless album.  Interesting and well recorded.  The vocals are very intimate.  
I will order some more acoustic diffusers for the side walls.  I have been thinking about that.

New Thiel CS3.6 owner per the recommendation of a friend who has owned Thiel speakers since the early 1980’s. I had not gone swimming in the audio deep end for a while and jumped in head first last month. Bought a brand new McIntosh C22 mark5 feeding into a MC462 as I wanted the warmth of the tube pre and the power to support most any listening need with a big SS amp. Picked up a Yamaha CD-S2100 from a local friend and still have a family passed down Garrard 301 for my vinyl.
I was looking around for some speakers to do the burn in before I started seeking a permanent fix for what to speaker to pair with the McIntosh set up. Low and behold a buddy says take a look at these Thiel cs3.6, they’ll work perfect for burn in and you might just like them so much you hang onto them. Using some older tara labs interconnects and speaker wires for now as well.
Same friend recommend staying with copper interconnects to maintain the warm sound of the tube pre. Also mentioned beware as the Thiel’s would expose any weak links in the set up. Not worrying about streaming yet but will after a bit.
Day three of the burn in and my does this system sound great, I’m looking forward to it getting weathered and improving. Huge difference from the upstairs Anthem system which has plenty of power but just doesn’t give the detail, richness, and depth of the music.