Thiel Owners

@thieliste

Well, most of the music I listen to... do not have glare in the treble, while I admit there is a handful of recordings that exhibit glare, which I openly welcome. After all, I find Thiel Coaxials to be transparent and truthful to the music. It doesn’t mask or mitigate any shortcomings in the recording or other components in the system.

I recall there are some people who prefer matching Thiel 2.7 & 3.7 with amps to tame the glare, or i’d like to describe, "shooting lasers at you! pew pew pew". I think one of the "best" matching amps in those days were Classe.

On the other hand, I do not recall Tellurium Q Ultra Silver having silver conductors or traces of it... but then again we will never know because Geoff (Boss of Tellurium Q) did not reveal what is inside his cables.

@jafant 

I've been popping by the forum every now and then to catch up on the conversations. I am humbled that I am learning more about Thiel's heritage as well as complex topics related to speaker designs. I do appreciate everyone's intellectual inputs.

Btw if I may ask - is there a reason for sharing the serial numbers? 

ydjames

Tom and myself are trying to figure out approxiamtely how many pair(s) of Loudspeakers were manufactured. Purely research and development (R&D).

Did you start with entry-level Tell-Q cabling then move up to Ultra Silver?

Happy Listening!

Serial numbers are usually produced in order at a factory.  Sometimes, there are changes in the build (e.g. crossover components) over time.  Having consecutive serial numbers is typically an indication that the items were produced at the same time and assuming it is a brand that cares about quality control, one should be good to go.

Stating serial numbers helps in reconstructing the flow of events. I left Thiel in 1995 and am playing catch-up with changes of various sorts. Of particular interest is that crossover manufacture was taken to Asia (with considerable care) and some performance changes. Over these past few years here on this forum, I've been able to piece together a picture of what happened when with what performance consequences. Thiel's Chinese crossovers used components that were cloned from the long-term "western" components. The layouts also migrated from point to point on masonite to high-quality fiberglas. My bottom line is that I prefer, subjectively supported with inferences from measurements, the original made in Lexington boards. But the Chinese equivalents are quite good - with some exceptions: we've found Chinese crossovers with downright sloppy coils that were audibly inferior when directly compared to Thiel's AcoustaCoil / ERSE coils, which I consider best of form.

This sleuthing would not be necessary if the New Thiel owners had honored and kept the extensive body of records that we kept from day 1. On the bright side, our view of Thiel history is gradually coming into focus.