Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
128x128jafant

audio1326 - I’ll chew a slice of your query. I investigated your question for affordable amps for the CS2.2 and landed on Adcom, and specifically the GFA555. In that process I sorted out some considerations, summarized here.

The GFA555 was designed by (the legandary one and only) Nelson Pass, as were the 535 and 545. Simple, low parts count, high current circuits which depend on high-quality parts. First generation boards were built in Japan with ’best’ available parts. Later runs moved to Taiwan with lower quality parts. I don’t know the serial numbers. There is even better Japanese transistor sets and components available now. (See Audio Upgrades below.)

The geriatric capacitor problem is a real but manageable problem. A competent electronics shop can measure performance of the caps. If they’re good, they’re good.

I bought a GFA555 and a GFA555 mkII which is generally considered ’more refined’. My journey landed on the original (Nelson Pass) GFA555 being superior and upgradable (by reason of its intrinsic superiority). I would consider the added cost of a 555 over the 545 or 535 to be a no-brainer. Transients require power and more is better if circuit finesse is not sacrificed. The 555 gives up nothing and gets more power.

The winning aspect is that Jim Williams of Audio Upgrades in Carlsbad CA upgrades this amp to two performance levels. The upper level adds world-class metal film resistors to the basic job. Cost is in the $hundreds, not $thousands. Very highly recommended.

Furthermore, Bill Thalmann of Music Technology is reviewing my Jim Williams GFA555 upgrade to recommend and test further audiophile enhancements. I intend to recommend this amp with upgrades (wherever the particulars fall) to Thiel Renaissance clients as a high value, high performance amplification solution.

I will not comment on other contenders, having no personal experience - with the exception that Prima Luna is an outstanding performer for its price. (As long as you enjoy tube rolling.)

tomthiel

Thank you for the follow up to audio1326 query about Adcom. I concur, those original Nelson Pass designs are tough to beat in Vintage amplification. I hope that you are well this Spring and having fun in your garage/space.

 

Happy Listening!

JA - I'm having a blast. I'm newly in a suitable space that was built in the 19th century as a dowel-making workshop. Good proportions and bones. Focus is on finalizing the (myriad) wire trials using (this round) the SCS4 with outboard crossover. I am again surprised how much improvement is made via simply moving the XO outboard free from microphonics and away from the driver EMF zone. There is notably less difference between wires when EMF is reduced. The wires act as antennae and quieter is decidedly better.

This weekend a young, female subject from a musical family, but first exposure to Thiel, listened to an Adam Cohen recording (Boats, from We Go Home). We listened through A: stock SCS4 and then B: outboard XO with original XO including wire). B brought some tears and comments about surprising involvement & connection.

More wire comparisons on today's docket.

 

tomthiel

Outstanding! At your age and stage in life, I will accept nothing less than having a Blast!

 

Happy Listening!