Trans Fi Salvation direct rim drive turntable


Hi A'goners, I've just bought this turntable, confident it'll be my last upgrade. The rest of my system is a Tom Evans Groove Plus SRX phono stage, EMM Labs CDSA SE cd player, Hovland HP200 pre/Radia power amps, Zu Definitions Mk 4 loudspeakers, so a pretty good way to listen to vinyl.

Over the years, since 1995 I've progressed from a Roksan Xerxes/Artemiz/Shiraz, via a Michell Orbe/SME V/Transfiguration Orpheus, finally ending up last week with my new Trans Fi Salvation/Trans Fi T3Pro Terminator/Zu modded Denon 103.

This turntable (£2500 UK price, approx $4000-$5000 US) is the brainchild of Vic, a retired dentist, who, fed up with the shortcomings of belt drive and traditionally-pivoted tone arms, literally from the ground up devised first the Terminator air bearing linear tracking tone arm (now in T3Pro guise as on my system), and now the direct rim drive Salvation turntable, a technology in direct opposition to the hegemony of belt drive we've come to accept from the '70s.

In summary, he has developed a motor that directly rim drives an oversize platter. The magic is that vibrations are drained away from the platter and hence stylus. So minimal rumble is transmitted, the weakness of Garrards/Lencos in the past. This is mated to a substantial slate plinth which does a great job of isolating the whole rig from external vibrations.

Where this differs from direct drive is that the torque applied is high enough to counteract stylus drag, but it is strictly analogue controlled ie no digital feedback applying constant micro speed control. Speed is set correctly, torque is sufficient, and speed stability is like a rock.

This is combined with his air bearing linear tracking arm, discussed on other threads.

So technical description over, how about how it sounds? Well, years ago I always assumed the overhang in bass when playing lps on my previous belt drive/pivoted arm tts, apparent as a benign artifact, was all part of the 'romance' of vinyl, esp. when compared to the dry, clinical sound of early cd. But in 2007 I acquired the EMM cd, which had a natural analogue sound playing silver discs, but none of this bass colouration. On studying the growing reemergence of idler/direct drive, and their superiority in maintaining speed stability, I agreed that the belt speed instability might be introducing this.

Two years ago I came across Vic, and now I can report that eliminating the belt for high torque rim drive has taken this whole artifact out of the equation. Whole layers of previously masked information like rhythm guitars are now present, treble information has abundant naturalness and decay, and bass, which appears to be less in quantity compared to belt, is actually more accurate with a real start-stop quality, much more like digital, and the real thing. The other positives are more linked to the arm, including uncanny tracking across the whole record side; I'm really not exaggerating in saying that the last few grooves at the end of an lp side are as solidly reproduced as the first. Music with strong dynamic contrasts are really served well by the Salvation, and I am shocked at how good this all is after trepidation that the sound might be hyperdetailed but too assertive etc. In fact music is reproduced with a relaxed incision, and a welcoming detailed transparency.

The amazing thing is that all of this is not in anyway at the expense of the natural warmth and tonal dimensionality that still puts vinyl way ahead of any digital (imho).

The only thing, and Vic would like this to be known, is that his creation is a cottage industry, and he can only produce limited numbers to order.

I'm happy to answer qs on it, as I really want our community to know about a possible world beating product at real world prices. My tech knowledge will be limited, but no problem discussing sound quality issues.

I'm not affiliated in anyway to the product, just sold my Orbe on ebay and bought this. Regards to all
spiritofmusic
Lewm, that's a very good point. Especially with all in one cdp's (and carts) it's increasingly getting harder and harder to make an audition, let alone a choice to buy.
I'd have to ensure a no quibble return policy if dissatisfied.
From reading between the lines, at a reasonable price point, the Eera Tentation and Neodio NR22 do seem to be getting plaudits from die hard analogue nuts who do claim they get close to analogue tonal density and discrimination as the tts they are running. Both are championed by true fans of analogue.
But yes, this could all be misleading.
Hi everyone. As I've moved to non-belt technology for listening to lps, I'm 'getting' what all the afficionados of DD, idler and rim have been trying to promote over the last few years, namely that a radically different presentation for lps is possible, removing certain colourations to open up the full bloom of analogue.
This tt, along with my full range driver, xoverless Zu spkrs, and move to balanced power are finally giving me a sound I can totally relax with and not feel compelled to upgrade further.
In respect of the tt, I'm confident I'll never go back to belt drive again.
Glad you like your non belt TT and Xoverless speakers. They must be awesome. Congratulations.
It's interesting Pete to hear analogue presentation which encompasses a lot of the neutrality of digital, serving only to make lp replay even further ahead of the game than cd, than my old tt, which in many respects was well behind the pace of my cdp.
Xoverless spkrs are only adding to the realistic tonality on offer, and balanced power is eliminating restrictions to the dynamics of the presentation.
Other than possible cart/phono stage/cabling upgrades, I think I'm getting there.
Stylus retipping/cantilever upgrading to my Transfiguration Orpheus and Zu Denon 103 carts are next on the agenda, plus demo of Tom Evans Mastergroove phono, and as a contrast, the Soundsmith Straingauge SG200 cart, which dispenses with a phono stage.
Zu Denon 103 and Transfiguration Orpheus just sent off for stylus retip/cantilever upgrades. Likely to be some time.
Fascinated to see how my game changing tt/arm will either accentuate or close the gap in sound quality btwn one cart which is a world beater with a price to match, and one which is a giant killer, but in some ways a better all around performer than it's pricier partner.
This comparison will tell me a lot more about the possible performance envelope of current setup, and what is ultimately possible from analogue.