@jl35 i recently got the safa idk if you are talking about the vali2 or saga but the stock tubes schiit tends to use in the pre amps are VERY neutral . can barely tell a difference. but i just switched to a ken rad
vt 231
smoked and the difference is huge. such an upgrade. im also getting the vali 2+ would the tung sol you got fit in the vali 2 or were you talking about the SAGA?