Tubes/SS Power Amps?



I've only heard, auditioned, listened to top of the line tube amps; consequently, I don't know squat about top of the line SS power amps. My problem is "heat". If the SS gets hot, I might as well have tubes.

Reviews that I've read on top of the line SS amps, always mention the heat. Rather than have a SS furnace in my listening room, I'll go with tubes. By the way, I don't think there's much difference between tubes and SS amps when you have a tube pre; especially top of the line. I'm searching for an amp in the vicinity of 100 watts per channel with balanced inputs, preferably mono blocks. Cool running SS is what I'm looking for. Can you help?
orpheus10
Regarding Stereophile magazine... I dumped that magazine years ago when it went overly political and vulgar. Using curse words in reviews and making public policy/political commentary in an audio review magazine was crazy. The writing was pedantic, arrogant and smacked of young pseudo-intellectual drivel. So... unless it has changed (and perhaps it has)... that magazine is something I will stay away from. That said, their subjective rankings, while of course being incomplete (limited basically only to those products whose manufacturers advertise with them) were seemingly reasonably accurate as far as I was able to tell.
Orpheus10, there are inexpensive ways of dealing with heat. You don't need air conditioning for starters, if you do it right.

Now if you set up your system according to how much heat it makes, don't expect it to sound like music. If it does, great, a happy coincidence.

Hot transistor amps are hot because they employ a greater amount of A operation in their output- this is to improve linearity. The same is true of tubes, but they are inherently more linear in many cases.

One thing is certain- all the solid state embodiments known so far make more odd ordered harmonic distortion than their tube counterparts. Odd ordered harmonics in trace amounts are easily detected by the human ear, which recognizes them as brightness and harshness.

So you might look into the idea of creating ventilation in your room to get rid of heat without air conditioning. I have seen this done quite successfully, such that you could sit in the same room with 2 class A 500 watt triode monoblocks all day and all night without getting uncomfortable, and without air conditioning.
Atmasphere, I had an SS amp that began to run hot, so I put a fan on it. The hotter it got, the better it sounded. I put two fans on it, next it caught fire taking two new woofers with it. That was the first and only amp I've ever owned that caught fire. I thought that was just supposed to happen to tube amps.

If creating ventilation can work, that's what I'll do.
Orpheus10, amps in general are not supposed to catch fire :), tube or solid state.

Sounds like that SS amp was overbiased and went into thermal runaway.

The way to do the ventilation is to put one are two vents over the space that the amp/amps will occupy. You can get flexible ductwork inexpensively that can then be routed to the outdoors by a small squirrel cage fan. If you do it right, it will be quite unobtrusive. If you live in a northern climate, you may have to take some simple steps to prevent the ducts from being a heat loss in the winter.

This approach is cheaper, quieter and more reliable than air conditioning.
Atmasphere,

I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts on class D amplification. Have you heard any of the newer class D amps in a good system? How do you think this new technology will affect the tube based amplifier business?

I find it ironic, as others have pointed out on other posts, that the original and oldest hi-fidelity technology (tubes) pairs so well with the latest and newest technology (class D).

I was thinking you could embrace this new technology by doing one or both of the following:

1. Offer a tube preamp that is specically designed for use with class d amplifiers.

2. Offer an Atmasphere class d amp, based on the Hypex Ncore 1200 or possibly the Pascal amp modules, to complement your current and future offerings. You could also use your proprietary designs around these class d modules.

I know a class d amp with a tube input stage/power supply, designed by and sold through Atmasphere, would create a big buzz in the audio world and with your potential customers. I will definitely voluonteer to test out anything you would decide to build.

Basically, seeing you post just got me thinking of possibilities. I'm just very interested in the new class d happenings and thinking out loud. But, in any case, I wish you and your company the best.

Tim