I’m very curious about the Kuzma Platis. Certainly pricey but wondering if anyone else has given one a try. Decent reviews so far as they try to mimmick some of the built in isolation integrated into the Stabi M.
Turntable Isolation Journey
Nearing the end of my journey to solve footfall & feedback issues in my small-room "home office" system with very bouncy floor and flexible walls. Turntable is the only source here -- and it’s a Clearaudio Innovation Compact with no suspension or special isolation feet. This system always sounded good, but was rendered nearly unusable at higher volumes due to turntable isolation that was inadequate relative to this room’s challenges. The worst artifact was when structure-borne feedback from the speakers would cause amp clipping on bass-heavy tracks. This clipping would manifest as an extremely loud singular POP sound, especially hitting the tweeters. It only occurred during the loudest parts of track with bass-heavy elements, and was so loud it was still significantly above the level of the music -- much louder than a POP you would hear from vinyl surface defects. The POP sound was startling, and clearly very bad for tweeters (fortunately my Tannoys seem to have survived several of these incidents). For a time I thought these POPs were from static electricity discharge, but they were NOT. In my quest I tried many solutions and tweaks over a few months, and I’d like to share a rundown of what worked versus what didn’t.
What Helped (MVP products & tweaks):
What Underperformed:
What Was Worthless (Don’t waste your money like I did):
I’m not going to bother expanding upon these; suffice to say they had no discernible positive effect.
+1 on the Townshend Isolation Platform. After hearing a great improvement in clarity with my Legacy spekaers using the Townshend bars over the Isoacoustic Gaia II, I tried the Isolation Platform under my Ovation. Previously I had the Isoacoustics Delos platform under the Ovation, and the Townshend improved over the Delos. While it isn't a night and day difference, there is defintely increase in midrange clarity, presumably by lowering of bass - mid bass resonance. Didn't really know it was there until it was gone! This wasn't as big of an improvement as going from the Gaias to the Townshend bars, though. Seems the Gaias were still transferring too much energy to my suspended floor.
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Nice, the Herron is a very good phono stage and I still have one around. At one point I thought the different subsonic filtering between phono stages and SUTs could have some impact, but in the end didn’t find any meaningful difference among the combinations tried (4 different phono stages, including Herron with and without SUT). None of the phono stages were even slightly at fault here. Your post reminded me, I also tried the KAB rumble filter. This was 100% effective at protecting from amp clipping and always kept the woofers rock solid steady -- no more flapping! However I felt it DID have a slightly negative impact on ultimate transparency and dynamics. If left with no other option it’s a good tool, but addressing the issue via proper isolation is superior. I feel my currently isolation grants (roughly) 90% the protection of the KAB, without sonic penalty. Very nice! Thanks for sharing your considerable experience. I feel like a baby in this area, but am happy to at least be crawl-walking now lol. Concrete slab floor is a dream for a future system :) You Ovation looks fantastic with that Tracer arm, on that Townshend! The Ovation and Innovation Compact are truly the "sweet spot" of the Clearaudio lineup. You can hear the same quality of sound that’s in the Master Innovation. I almost bought a Delos and am glad I didn’t, but it’s at least possible these products could be effective in some systems. I was also kind of shocked how much energy still gets dumped into my suspended wood floor through the Gaia III’s. Superficially these feet are "suspension like", but unfortunately they don't seem to be as effective as a real spring suspension. I bet the difference with a Townshend podium would be huge. |
BTW killer setup @mulveling. Those Tannoys probably sound as a good as they look. I thought you were running Rogue monoblocks at one point? Edit: Thanks, the Tracer arm has been rock solid (so to speak) and I've run super light, high compliance to heavier mid compliance carts successfully, although my current Stanton has a resonant frequency of 7hz. Perhaps a bit shy of desired range, but doesn't seem to have a real world effect to my ears. Anyway, it seems both you are I are somewhat underwhelmed by the Isoacoustics products in our systems, I'm sure others have had better success.
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