turntable upgrade VPI or CLEARAUDIO?

muddy bass can be caused by having your speakers too close to your speakers(feedback). this is a problem with turntables that don't have a suspension system. Some people even put thier turntable in another room.
Fluctuating line voltage can cause speed variations. Check voltage with a voltmeter. Careful,we can't afford to lose any audiophiles. Maybe you have a dealer nearby who wil lend you a power line conditioner.
Before you spend your money be sure you nailed down the tt as your problem.
Lastly, I don't know about clearaudio but VPI offers an elctronic flywheel. Niether turntable has a serious suspension system. A sota cosmso while not perfect at speed is essentially immune to feedback. Good Luck!

obviously, I meant to say turntable too close to your speakers.

Thanks for the help on this matter. I don't have a copy of the owner's manual, so I called and spoke with Stanalog a while back. I think that I must not have the damping correctly set for the Clearaudio Discovery cartridge to work up to potential. Any help in getting the damping level set would be greatly appreciated.

Also, my table has the 3 layer plinth, with the graphite armtube tonearm. I am thinking that I might have the arm overdamped, hence the slow bass?

Thanks again, Brad

Hi Brad,

Here is the quote from the WT factory setup. (somewhere in all this writing.)

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND-- that this is really part of an intregal setup and soing this procedure alone will not suffice.

You really need to set up all respective parameters, ie: vtf, vta etc -- and you really DO need a protracter as well -- the WT arm is so very much an intregal process (as with any arm.)

I am giving you a sort of band-aid by giving you this part of the setup prcedure.

I was sort of hesitant because this is only a small part of what really needs to be done.

"Put arm fluid in cup. use nut driver or socet wrench extension to push plunger. When fluid settles, paddle should be covered by 1 to 2 mm of fluid. Fluid for arm is very stiff." *(hence my reason for saying wait 20 ~ 30 mins and recheck)*

This is a great place to start but as I have stated additional adjustments and rechecking are in order.

BTW There is a specific mathematical formula for figuring out the rate at which the arm hits the vinyl. (do a search @ the asylum for details.)

I believe that you will be extremely satisfied when you have accomplished proper setup :)

As a side note, I had really great customer service via the OLD WT -- Carl was extremely helpful but Stanalog has been less than helpful...

Happy listening,

The offer still stands for a copy of the manual--

~FX

FX, thanks for the help. I have done what I think is a good job setting up the table, as I have had quite a few, including another WT.

Regarding the silicon, when you said "covered by 1 to 2 mm", are you refering to the entire paddle immersed in fluid, or just the bottom covered, and up the sides of the white paddle 1 or 2 mm? I currently have silicone only half way up the side of the paddle puck. I would think that additional fluid would make the sound more congested, or is it the opposite of this?

I agree that Carl was very much more helpful than Stanalog, although I did get to visit with Stanalog at length last spring after a month of phone calling to reach them.

JFRECH, I am curious about your cables. You have both the ref. and ultra Transparent. Is this on purpose, or are you working your way up the line to all reference?

Brad