Upgrading sub to get a live feel.


I currently have a set of JBL 4319 which has its history as 4310. They are studio monitors and as a result they sound like studio monitors you hear everything, but they lack the physical presence on the low end. They have wonderful mid range and voice presence. I also have a pair of SVS SB1000 to help with the low end. 

I want to eventually upgrade to JBL 4367 with upgraded pair of subs, for this reason, but in the mean time would a sub upgrade be considered before the speakers. 


thewatcher101
Hello Watcher,

     Okay, I'll keep monitoring the thread. I you have any questions, you can always pm me, too.


Good luck and take your time,
 Tim

After a week of setting up, my review of the system is consistent with the one I've posted. 

I ended up moving the speakers forward 3 feet away from the wall (I have other things in my room so I can't move them that far away). The imaging improve marginally, a bit cleaner. 

Did the crawl test, and the subs are about the same relative place, with two against the front wall and two behind the seating position. 

The phasing was next, using the reverse polarity method, and since the subs are all about equal distance from the seating position and in the relative to the speaker. So all phasing ended at pretty much zero.

Crossover same concept, I paid attention to low mid range harshness, and tuned it to a point where harshness is gone. Starting with the pairs closest to the speaker, the ones far away should not be set higher than front. If you still sense harshness, the ones closer to you should be crossed over lower than the fronts. 

Volume is fun to play with, if you set them all the same you get a better sense of space, but if you set the front higher than the rear, you get stage imaging. I'll play with this setting and see what comes from it.  
 
The sound is effortless and cohesive extending the dynamic range of my speakers and enhancing the sense of space. For about 2 grands its a deal compared to not even the price of one high end sub. 

Hello watcher,

    Excellent!  It sounds like you're very pleased and are gaining some good knowledge and experience with your custom 4-sub DBA.   

You stated:
"Volume is fun to play with, if you set them all the same you get a better sense of space, but if you set the front higher than the rear, you get stage imaging. I'll play with this setting and see what comes from it."

     This is very interesting to me.  I've never used a custom DBA where you can control the volume and crossover on each individual sub. I've only used the AK Swarm DBA system were you control all 4 subs volume and crossover as a group.  
     I have all 4 set at 45% volume and a crossover usually at 40-50 Hz and I'd characterize it in your terms as improving my system's soundstage and its sense of space or airiness. But I'd like to be able to control the degree of these qualities like you're able to. 



Enjoy,
Tim