VAC Ren II, VAC Phi, or ARC Ref 3?


Finally, the two cold solder joints in one of my Rowland 7M amplifiers have been fixed. Just a simple 2 minutes soldering job at home, thanks to a kind live phone consult by Jeff himself. Now the system is back purring like a kitten.
Great say you, but. . . the problem is that now I have fallen totally prey to Upgraditis Furiosa, the most pernicious and 'wife threatening' form of Audiophilia Nervosa.
I listen mostly to classical--lots of chamber, vocal, Early Music, Baroque, Romantic, some large orchestra, lots of cello and other strings--on a system that I have lovingly put together over the last 20 years: EAD T1000, AT&T glass C-core glass wire, EAD D7000 Mk. 3, AudioQuest Quartz RCA, Audio Research LS2B, Gutwire XLR, Jeff Rowland 7M monoblocks, Cardas Golden Ref PCs on 7M, Cardas Golden Ref speakerwires, MagnePan 3A speakers.
The sound is sweet, lush, with a large if slightly unfocused soundstage, sometimes slightly veiled, somewhat soft at the bottom, can sound glorious in the midrange, good if not spectacular at the top. Much better at small ensembles than at full orchestra, where the sound stage can collapse and full strings and brass often display signs of brittleness and two-dimensionality. But, so much for self-criticism. Now what to do?
I intend to migrate towards a fully balanced system, with redbook and SACD capability and a tube linestage. I will start upgrading at the source and linestage points. The source will be an Esoteric X-01 or an upcoming APL NWO-1. But in this thread I'd like to discuss options for a new linestage. My requirements are an open and detailed, sweet sound, accurate with minimal coloration, with very good but not necessarily overwhelming macro-dynamics, an excellent three-dimensional and accurate soundstage, superior microdynamics and subtle nuance. The linestage must sound great out of the box--after breakin of course: not only after going through many cycles of NOS tubes musical chairs. All of this from a company with a stellar track record and reputation in quality, dependability and pre/post sale support. I listened to the VTL 7.5 and found it to be too soft. The BAT VK51SE sounded too dark. Then I listened at length to the VAC Ren II, which seems to embody all of my requirements. I have not heard the VAC Phi as yet, but it is in the running by inference. Nor I have listened to the ARC Ref 3, although I intend to: Ref 3 is in the running by reputation.
Suggestions? Opinions? It's your turn guys and girls!
guidocorona
Thank you Brian, the PDF file linked above is not compatible with Adobe Reader 6. I am getting only binary info displayed. Thank you anyway
Thank you Brian, the PDF file linked above appears to contain only digital noise.
I prefer analog noise :-) Maybe you need a new, quieter computer, since it looks fine here!

Brian
While I cannot see a day where I'll have the money for something like the Phi 2.0, I can well imagine being at the price point of the VAC Standard LE. Does anyone have experience with this "budget" version of the VAC product? How is its phono stage?
Thank you Brian for your clarification. Unfortunately simple and ready access to manufacturer's info is one of my other criteria for selecting a device. I am sure Blowtorch is a fine linestage, yet I fear there won't be any Blotorch in my future. Thanks again, Guido
Pscialli - I've had a VAC STD LE for 3 months now and I really like it. It does not have the phono stage, which is not a problem for me at this point since I don't spin vinyl. I really like the VAC sound, and after talking to Kevin H. several times, will be moving up to the Ren Mk2 soon (I hope).

I really like the detail and layering I get from the LE, and Kevin says the Ren Mk2 is a better choice for me than the Ren Sig for these characteristics. There are also advances made in the Ren Mk2 that are lacking in the Signature and the designs are totally different, From a developmental standpoint, it seems as though the Phi is an evolution from the Ren Mk2, NOT from the Ren Signature, as may have been previously stated elsewhere in this thread.

The only other preamp for comparison in my system was a Thor TA-1000 Mk2. The Thor stickers at around $10K, and in my system had a little better bass tightness and extension, plus a little better overall dynamics than the VAC. It was a noticeable, but not huge difference and I was pretty surprised at how close the VAC actually came to the Thor. In fact, to my ears, the VAC's transparency was a shade better than the Thor's - there seemed to be a little more detail present. I guess it depends upon what you are listening for, etc. Kevin also suggested that the bass and dynamics result was probably partly due to an impedence matching issue between the LE and my DNA-500 amp, which is not present with the Ren Mk2.

In summary, the VAC Std LE is a surprisingly strong performer, (at least the line stage is) from my experience, and the better the system surrounding it, the better it will sound. Paired with my APL 3910 Denon and Whisper speakers, poorly recorded disks still sound like what they are, but well-recorded disks sound between great and incredible! I find myself listening to CD's I haven't heard in years and just grinning....... guess that's what its all about, right?

I know its subjective, but hope this helps.