Guys, I know this is stupid, but if you can try the Belles amps, you may be shocked. For my ears, I have found them to be as good as products that cost much more. I read folks say that all the time and cringe, lol. There are some products that punch higher than they cost, but the Belles line seems to be very special from top to bottom. Just a thought as I know one dealer who sells a lot of them with Vandy's. Just a though.