The standard strobe on the turntable is not widely enough to control deviations?
Vintage DD turntables. Are we living dangerously?
I have just acquired a 32 year old JVC/Victor TT-101 DD turntable after having its lesser brother, the TT-81 for the last year.
TT-101
This is one of the great DD designs made at a time when the giant Japanese electronics companies like Technics, Denon, JVC/Victor and Pioneer could pour millions of dollars into 'flagship' models to 'enhance' their lower range models which often sold in the millions.
Because of their complexity however.......if they malfunction.....parts are 'unobtanium'....and they often cannot be repaired.
TT-101
This is one of the great DD designs made at a time when the giant Japanese electronics companies like Technics, Denon, JVC/Victor and Pioneer could pour millions of dollars into 'flagship' models to 'enhance' their lower range models which often sold in the millions.
Because of their complexity however.......if they malfunction.....parts are 'unobtanium'....and they often cannot be repaired.
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Richardkrebs, Actually I would be surprised if any of the flag ship DD TTs from that era failed this test. I too would be surprised....but I still have not seen any videos subjecting any other turntables to the Timeline test with two or more tonearms/cartridges playing then NOT playing as per my video. Despite what anyone may think about the Timeline....this test displays significant information about the speed correction facility of the turntable under test. For instance my TT-101 is not as 'perfect' as the TT-81 under this test....The Timeline moves 2mm from start to finish 😱 For years, there have been promises here, that videos would be uploaded....but nothing appears. Surely you could do it richardkrebs and Peter...? For Peter, it can demonstrate the relative performances of the Denon DP80 and DN308. best-groove, The ability to turn a heavy platter at the correct speed has little to do with how a turntable is able to maintain speed under 'stylus drag'. |
Lew, Mikey has used the Feickert Platter Speed App to test his turntables for years. Just buy the test disc directly from Feickert http://www.feickert.org/index.php?id=16&L=1 And download the free App to your phone or iPad. The only problems I have found with it over the years is:-
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@halcro unfortunately I do not having a working TT or system at present. There was a devastating fire which took out one of my amps, damaged my preamp and speakers. The TT survived but the wiring from arm to Pre was literally vaporized. I do not have a second arm or the ability to mount one if I did. But I take your point. Show me the evidence. The time line is an interesting device, but I think that some may read too much into what it tells us. It only shows us where the platter is relative to the last time the laser fired. Say 1.8 seconds ago. It does not tell us what happened in between the two laser shots. For example, a stationary platter would pass the timeline test. It is also possible to pass the timeline test where the platter is stationary for say 1/2 a second and then accelerates up to a speed considerably faster than 33.3 and back down to zero. As long as the platter is in the same place every 1.8 seconds, all seems fine. We need more sophisticated equipment to find out what is happening between the laser shots. cheers |
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