Vintage vs New


My children growing older and leaving home has allowed me to get back into our common interest. I find myself wanting a new pair of speakers and I’m torn between some vintage models that interested me in easier times, but were not obtainable due to budgetary limitations, and current models with their state of the art drivers.  Case in point: B&W 801 Matrix Anniversary vs. anything in the 702/703.
I would like to hear people’s thoughts.  
mjjw
In 2019, before lockdown, I was in a similar position. Having owned a pair of B&W 801 Matrix S2s (with upgraded XOs) for 28 years, I felt an itch I needed to scratch and went to my local dealer in Belfast to listen to KEF R11 which had just come out. The KEFs cost £4,000 and sounded "nice" but not as good as my 801Ms. The dealer agreed that in order to get anything significantly better I'd probably need to spend at least £20K. At that point the itch stopped.

However, that made me think. We are being told by marketing people that anything new is better than what came before. In my experience that certainly is not true. It doesn't matter whether we are talking about audio equipment, cars, motorcycles, or bicycles. The newer gear probably involves less effort but does not generate the same emotional involvement. I enjoy riding my 1982 10 speed Bianchi steel-framed bike just as much as I do riding my new custom 22 speed titanium bike. Yes, I'm faster on the Enigma but I enjoy riding the Bianchi just as much, it's a different experience. Same goes for cars: more gizmos don't get you there any faster, they just add showroom appeal (and cost more when they break).

Newer is not necessarily better - it is different, and we all should figure out if that difference is worth paying for. My 801s have a great sound stage, fantastic imaging, they are very accurate (they do let you know if a recording is cr@p), and their bass extension is good, although not as good as on my other system (Meridian amplification &CD with ProAc Studio 1s - bought in 1988!, and dual BK XXLS400 subs). I might buy another pair of XXLS400s to go with the 801s, that £1,000 is a lot cheaper than buying a new set of speakers for 20 times that amount.

So, mjjw I would say that ideally you should listen to both the 801 Anniversaries and the 703s and then make up your mind. If you can't, ask yourself whether you'd rather own an older legendary speaker (pride of ownership undoubtedly is a big plus) or a new run-of-the-mill model? Will the rest of your equipment be up to the revealing nature of the 801s? These are monitor speakers, designed to reveal a recording's good AND bad bits. By definition, they will also reveal any short-comings in your signal chain: bullish!t in, bullsh!t out...

I would say that these speakers will get you 90% out on the curve of diminishing returns, where 100% is a cost-is-no-object seven figure system. You just have to make sure that the rest of your system can do them justice.

Good luck on your journey! Keep us posted.
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Magnepan--1969-today.

Still the best, always will be.

Boxes distort.
Horns belong on poles at HS football stadiums.
Pure electrostatics are brittle at volume and cause very quick "listening fatigue"--i.e., "THAT"S ENOUGH"
Hybrids require too many items in the chain and degrade input/output (Fulton Modular J and Levinson HQD, for example.)

Unfortunately, not everyone has a room or equipment that work with them. 

When you hear only what goes in, you have to deal with what produces it.

Cheers!
Nothing has change from BC TO AD as far as our hearing. Audio equipment has evolved.  My ears perfer the sound of music through vintage equipment.  I am no hater when it comes to new audio equipment. Perfection has evolved over every single piece of audio equipment from the rca cables speaker cables dac etc. I embrace all the different varieties of audio equipment manufacturers we have to choose from. Don't get caught up in all the BS hype in audio.  Just listen to what your ears are telling you not the salesman.  The salesman can turn you on to a lot of equipment  to choose from but ultimately your individual ears will tell you the truth.  B&W 801 are great speakers . Some days I am more reserved and some days I want to jamm at loud volume. I pick and choose my equipment to sound great to my ears but also take the abuse at louder volume and have the capability to sound damn good without breaking a sweat.  
I'm sorry, but the Tekton Double  Impact looks as if it would sound truly horrible.  What is it:  A Bose 901 based on tweewers, rather than midranges, plus a bunch of subs? Jeez!  No one needs all of those 14  tweeters, unless he can't design one to take more than a watt or so. I will bet that with the 8 subs, one with a bit of midrange thrown in, does have at least double impact.