Warmest sounding Green Mountain speaker?

Newer versions of the Rio have been introduced using the pretext of 'better time coherence' which audiophiles accept without questioning, whereas if you listen to the speakers, (which i have personally done) what you find is a difference in the TONALITY. For example the difference in sound between the rio and the chroma, is that the forwardness noted in the review is now gone but its still not right, in my view.

I really dont have an axe to grind. I have happily moved on from my bad experience with these. That doesnt mean I should not post in any thread about GMA. 

As you say people are free to choose what they like. If my opinion is rubbish I am fine with that. 

If one thinks GMA is no good then one is free to produce and sell better speakers. 

If you want to buy them that is fine too.

Kenji,

I was going to leave you alone, but you have now gone too far. You lie, just as before.

Your Green Mtn. speakers were not setup for you by a retailer. You purchased them from us, directly. I have your invoice, emails, Paypal receipt and shipping documents.

They are Chroma speakers, with the time-domain improvements in the crossover circuits compared to original Rio.

Upon delivery and for years afterwards, you had the speakers in a very poor room, quite acoustically inferior in every way. I have your cell phone video showing this and your emails describing it. And you have my helpful response suggesting the best and least-expensive ways in which to fix its acoustic problems and what (and WHY) you would hear along the way.

Six months or more later, after I had not heard from you for quite a while, you took these speakers apart and removed their fiberglass linings. I have your email describing this. In it, you also remark how you cracked at least one marble cabinet by not putting a screw back into its correct hole.

You removed the tweeters, laid the cabinets on their sides, and set the tweeters on the 'new' cabinet tops. I have your email.

You removed the crossover circuits and modified them to second-order circuits, which negates any time-coherence. I have your email.

More than a year after your purchase, after I informed you that these modifications voided your warranty, you lied to American Express by telling them you had been promised a refund. I provided proof to them that this was false and they denied your request for refund. I have the emails on this.

Another year passes without contact, and you lie to AMEX again. This time, their agent did not contact us or Paypal, so AMEX leveraged Paypal to give you a partial refund of US$1200, which you accepted. Paypal removed these funds from our account with no notice. I have the emails to Paypal showing them how you were not promised a refund, and that you had already owned these speakers for YEARS, and that you had modified them. They agreed with me, then told me their contract was with AMEX, not us, so they had to do what AMEX told them. We had to take this financial loss and so I decided we could no longer accept Paypal from any customer, thanks to you.

After receiving this false refund, YOU KEPT THESE SPEAKERS.

Two years later, with no provocation, you began new threads on Audiogon attacking me. Audiogon removed them at my request, after many others posted their responses that something was 'not right' with you, as you would not answer their questions and instead began insulting them. These folks did not even own Green Mtn!

I would add that you know nothing of speaker design, literally nothing. I have your long emails showing how you never did understand any of the math even after I carefully and simply explained different topics about which you asked for more detail.

Now Kenji, if you follow previous form, I expect you to address nothing of the above, but instead change the subject and invent a new attack. Instead, please just fade away from your tiny vendetta. Perhaps look for something else to occupy your time?

Otherwise, I wish you a happy and healthy life!

Roy Johnson
Designer
Green Mountain Audio

I did not enter this topic to start an argument or complaint about my purchase. I already did that with the relevant organisation, the Better Business Bureau. THAT was your opportunity to respond to my complaint and engage in a discussion but you refused to reply to any of their numerous letters sent to you on my behalf.
This is not the place to discuss such matters. You already chose to refuse an invitation to discuss this off the forum.

Here is the proof of the complaint: http://www.bbb.org/southern-colorado/business-reviews/audio-visual-equipment-rent-and-lease/green-mountain-audio-in-colorado-springs-co-6362500/complaints

They certainly did not dismiss my complaint and the fact that you refused to enter into any discussion at the time, diminishes your credibility.

I have no axe to grind, so I won’t bother to get into a discussion about anything that does not pertain to the technical aspects of Green mountain speakers.

Exactly as I predicted, you have denied nothing of what I wrote, including that I still posses proof of your theft.

Anyone can file a BBB complaint. They do not judge the veracity of any complaint. Their small local branch did not notify us until the period to challenge had passed. The date of your complaint is long after you obtained your illegal refund, a complaint in which you lied about receiving your refund.

Yes Kenji, you do intend us harm. I have your email threatening exactly this sort of behaviour from nearly four years ago.

There is nothing more I can or need to say about this subject. My only defense is to encourage Audiogon management to let this thread remain open so that, in the future, others see how you have behaved.

Roy