Warmest sounding Green Mountain speaker?


Considering buying a pair of GMA speakers and wonder what is considered the warmest sounding of any in their line up past or present as the only thing I have reservations about is the tone might be a little on the lean side from what I have read compared to lets say Vandersteen which I have now.
frankk
Haven't found a speaker yet except for GMA's that'll work in my tiny listening room. IMO there's no better speaker out there, at least in my room.
Kenjit, you actually took the speakers apart???  Normal people just sell the things they don't like.  
I finally found my AGON password!  Since bombaywall posted link to my comments of 4 years ago, I wanted to state that arrangement of my systems has not changed (except maybe the addition of the Jeff Rowland DAC to the main system).  I did look through my files and found the 1/3 octave measurement notes (using Audio Control SA-3051 analyzer) taken at the (single) location recommended by GMA given distance from the speakers.  For the main system with the EOS HX/Hammer Lite (in a moderately large non-rectangular soutwest style Great Room, tile floors, wood ceiling) there is a ~160 Hz reinforcing reflection from the ceiling, but other wise flat response (within a dB or two) from 100 Hz up through the mids.  In the "computer darkroom" with the Chromo II six feet from measurement point (typical small third bedroom) response is virtually flat (within a dB or two from 100 Hz up through the mids.  The measurements correspond with what I hear, and I notice no significant diffence when I rise from the mic position or walk behind the mic.  If "lobing" exists I don't notice it when listening to recorded music.  Again the GMA speakers present a very realistic image compared to what I hear at the live chamber music events that attend almost every month.  Since addressing the many erroneous "technical" statements that have appeared in this thread would take too much time and space, I'll just state, as other GMA owners have, that I have not experienced the effects stated in the original post.
Anybody who currently owns GMA speakers can vastly improve their performance by the following way. This modification will work very well for Rio, Eos and Europa (and any other speaker). You will get the warmth that is lacking.

Buy a pair of these digital plate amplifiers. They require a pc to set the crossover settings. You will then need to unscrew the drivers and then desolder the wires and wire some cables onto the drivers and pass them out of the port (or from the back if you drill a hole in the wood at the back). very easily done.

You can choose any crossover slope you like from first order to fourth order and any type from bessel, butterworth to linkwitz riley.
You can also equalise the tweeter and woofers response to flatten them. You can also add or take away time delay on the tweeter.
You can do all of this in real time and compare the results.

Come back and tell us whether you prefer the sound. You cant go wrong with this. Even if you want to stick with first order slopes, it is still vastly better to go active than passive. You cannot lose. Even if you want to replicate the original transfer function of the passive crossover,
you can do this AND benefit from the active amplification.
You will immediately hear the difference between 1st and 4th order.

Once you get these plate amps, you can even upgrade the tweeter (and woofer) on your speakers to higher quality ones. Possibilities are endless.

https://www.minidsp.com/products/plate-amplifiers/pwr-ice125

In the highly unlikely event you want to go back to the original speaker, that is easily done since this is a reversible modification.
"A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees."
                                                              --William Blake

Buy a pair of these digital plate amplifiers. They require a pc to set the crossover settings. You will then need to unscrew the drivers and then desolder the wires and wire some cables onto the drivers and pass them out of the port (or from the back if you drill a hole in the wood at the back). very easily done. 

You can choose any crossover slope you like from first order to fourth order and any type from bessel, butterworth to linkwitz riley.
You can also equalise the tweeter and woofers response to flatten them. You can also add or take away time delay on the tweeter.
You can do all of this in real time and compare the results. 
OMG - I am going to go drill some holes in my speakers right now!  LOL
Roy, It is easy to see that you stand behind your products and go to great lengths to help customers. Unfortunately Kenjit seems to have extracted from you the cost of the refund and more in the form of time and frustration. 
Just came across this thread.  I have owned a pair of Eos HX (I believe one of the first pairs), and have been very pleased with their performance.  They are quite revealing of the recording and all upstream components, including cables, but in no way could they be described as lacking "warmth" or being recessed in the upper bass through the middle of the midrange.  The music/sound is affected by room placement and toe-in, and adjustments of the tweeter position are easily heard. 
If you do own Green Mountain speakers, I would NOT following Kenjit's suggestion -- to essentially "design your own speaker" using the Green Mountain enclosure.  To call Kenjit an amateur would be an insult to well-intended amateurs everywhere.
Roy OTOH is without doubt one of the good guys in audio.
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why isn't this guy designing and marketing his own speakers since he knows so much? You would think he would be a diy guy? I have to say it was amusing reading this thread. If anyone has been in the retail world we all have had to deal with that one customer we wished we had not sold product to. Some people you just cannot make happy, if it is any relief you can bet some other manufacturer has gone thru the same thing with this customer. Some folks just want product for free and this is their method to get exactly that. I feel for the next that sells him something.
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