Which USB reclocker is as good as the Innuos Phoenix USB?


I read a lot about the Innuos Phoenix USB and everyone sings its praises even owners of expensive gear. The problem is that it is expensive.

There are other reclockers like iPurifier3, the Ideon Audio USB Re-clocker 3R, or the SOtM tX-USBultra USB Audio Reclocker. In forums the feedback is that the Phoenix beats a lot of the reclockers.

Does anyone have experience with a USB reclocker that does as good job as the Phoenix USB?

tjag
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@djones51 This is true. A reclocking USB device doesn't alter the speed at witch the DAC asynchronously retrieves USB data packets. Additionally, USB reclockers claim to only repacket the data without altering it. So how can one explain all the positive reviews on Audiogon and the net about the Phoenix and other USB reclockers?

Either it is all lies and smoke or there is something in the USB communication mechanism that is not common knowledge yet. I wasn't able to find an answer to this question. I only read review after review of how good the results of using a USB reclocker are.

If you find a single negative review about the Phoenix please share it.

 

 

@djones51   +1

With asynchronous USB DAC's clock is not based on rate of incoming data (as it is with S/Pdif).  Data is delivered in frames (each frame containing multiple samples) at constant frequency, for instance 1kHz.  DAC receives frames and places samples in the buffer signaling back buffer's over or underflow.  Upon this signal computer adjusts the size of next frame.  That way DAC will never loose samples while its clock is independent and constant.  As djones51 said - reclocking data that will be reclocked anyway doesn't make much sense.  The only useful thing of USB reclocker could be isolation (if any) to avoid injecting electrical noise from computer into DAC.  It is very likely that good DAC has already optical isolation and USB reclocker won't help much.  Minimizing electrical noise (good power supplies etc.) seems more important.

@kijanki I totally agree I am not disagreeing at all.

But.. how can you explain all the positive reviews about the Phoenix. I can make a long list of positive reviews on Audiogon and on the net.

Anyone found a negative review yet? Can someone explain this mystery please :)

@tjag   It is likely that Phoenix reclocker helped users who had outdated synchronous USB or provided some electrical isolation.  Since reclocking of the signal that doesn't come in real time doesn't make any sense, I'm just saying - be sure you can return it if it doesn't help.  On the other hand if you strongly believe that it will bring improvement - it will and, as Seinfeld said, "There is nothing wrong with it"  :)