WiFi streaming — streamer vs. through iPad


I’m currently streaming Qobuz in my HeadFi rig to my DAC via my iPad via an upgraded dongle and USB cable and was pretty happy til I hooked up my CD transport and realized it sounds much better than than streaming.  After speaking with some folks here I’ve since realized I need to get a dedicated streamer hardwired to my router to up my streaming performance, but I’ve got a couple situations where going hardwired won’t be possible and will be forced to use WiFi.  My question is, if I’m using WiFi would there still be a sonic benefit to using a streamer (I’m planning on getting an iFi Zen Stream BTW) versus going wired through my iPad or will using WiFi completely nullify any sonic advantages the streamer brings?  Thanks for any thoughts/advice. 

soix

Hi @soix, have you put thought into how you’re going to get Qobuz to the iFi Zen Stream?

I was/am a Qobuz user who upgraded to the iFi streamer. One of the major issues for me was the iFi doesn’t natively support Qobuz, Qobuz doesn’t have a Qobuz Connect yet, and the iFi still doesn’t support Chromecast. Casting is my go-to method for video streaming and was for audio streaming. iFi does support Airplay though, which you will likely use with your iPad initially. If I remember correctly, Airplay is limited to 24/48, however. Unless you’re willing to cap Qobuz at CD quality, you won’t be able to make use of some high res content on Qobuz without introducing something extra like Roon or BubbleUPNP.

My solution was to get a Roon server going on an old computer, which I have running in the guest bedroom. Once I had Roon up, I also subscribed to Tidal, which complements Qobuz’s catalogue. With Roon running both Qobuz and Tidal, I feel I finally have a catalogue that rivals Spotify/Apple Music. I much prefer Roon’s interface over that of Qobuz or Tidal, but I would honestly be happy with Spotify only if they had launched a CD tier.

You say:

I’ve got a couple situations where going hardwired won’t be possible and will be forced to use WiFi.

Like others have suggested here, you could use a Wifi extender, then run ethernet from the extender to the streamer. Rather than use extenders, I would recommend that you transition your home network to a mesh wifi system. The consumer-grade mesh systems include TP-Link Deco line, Google/Nest Wifi, Amazon’s eero, and Netgear’s Orbi line. They should all outperform extenders. If you’d like to take your home networking even further, look at the enterprise-grade gear by TP-Link and Ubiquity. I currently use the Nest router has the hub router with a Google Wifi 3-pack as the mesh access points. And I have hardwired the Nest router to the access points. 

I transitioned from streaming via PC, to a Chromecast Audio (a lateral move from PC), to upgrading the Chromecast (power cable w/ethernet adapter, iFi power supply, and iFi SPDIF Reclocker), and now I use the iFi Zen Stream. I have a review on this forum about the sound quality differences between the upgraded Chromecast and the Zen Stream. When I reviewed them, I used wifi connections for both.

I believe that starting with Wifi is fine. For me, a hardwired connection opened up the possibility of converting ethernet to fiber (and back to ethernet) immediately before connecting to the Zen Stream. And I believe that introducing the fiber line lowered the noise floor further. In an email with iFi, their rep told me they are investigating incorporating fiber in future products.

@classdstreamer Thanks for all the good info!  I noticed Qobuz wasn’t mentioned on the iFi Zen Stream page and was planning on asking about that.  That’s a big problem for me because I’m not going to listen to dumbed-down audio through Air Play and a don’t like Tidal and their silly MQA stuff either.  I’m amazed iFi is ignoring such a popular app like Qobuz — any idea why they don’t support it yet or if they have plans to incorporate it relatively soon?  And thanks for the info on Mesh and extenders.  I’m new to these products so can you explain why Mesh is better than an extender.  Thanks again. 

@soix

From all I have read, iFi is working on a connect feature like they offer with Tidal.

They are not ignoring it, but the development has to be a two way street it seems. Hopefully soon.

As I use Tidal, not an issue for me (and use the lower tier membership without MQA). But, until then, there is a workaround, an app called MConnect, that allow Qobuz to play directly through the Zen Stream. Downside is you have to use their (MConnect) interface. Roon is the other alternative, but personally, I’m not making that investment yet.

The Zen is a great streamer, not sure you are going to find better for the money. It’s streaming quality is constantly compared to more expensive streaming units.

I don't believe Qobuz is available with the IZen unless you use roon.  Others with more knowledge than I may say differently.