Wilson Audio Haters

+1 on Blackfly being on the right track.

Welcome indeed and Happy New year all!

What Sasha's can do with Roger Waters Amused to Death I found quite amazing...voices from well outside the speakers. I didn't buy them, though, for other reasons--boomy bass and appearance (WAF) chief among them. I ended up with Focal Scala Utopia v2. I haven't been able to replicate the pyrotechnics of the Sashas with them on Amused to Death, but I've been happy with them otherwise in terms of timbre and musicality. Where I've gotten the most from my system in terms of holographic imaging has come from playing native DSD, which I can do thanks to a Light Harmonic Da Vinci dual DAC.

i am amazed at how many posters have strong opinions about sound characteristics of driver materials etc. sometimes i wonder if you guys are for real with your amazing ears. dont get me going on those of you who have extreme dislikes and likes for certain metals in your wires and cords. my hat is off i guess. someday someone will set up  the perfect demo room with all the products and all of us experts will have to take blind tests and have our scores published online for all to see.

Cone material sometimes makes subtle it can make subtle yet very very sweet difference gold ears arent required to hear sweet natural timbre of percussion. I think vocals sound most realistic on speakers with paper cones also, that I have heard. among other strengths they have. all the top line speaker manufacturers their best lines are more often paper.

I like how bo thrashed on paper cones its old forgotten tech and how he eloquently puts people that favor natural material stupid in another speaker topic haha then in this topic hes praising it like that never happened.

My subs have paper cones, they are some of the most natural sounding Ive heard regardless sof cost. Again I dont think golden ears are required, nothing like that, you just have to listen. 

The only thing I have against Wilson Audio speakers is that 1) they use high order crossovers (not good for time alignment at the cross over points due to phase angle shift) and that 2) they invert the polarity of some drivers, by design or necessity, relative to others, to do the least amount of "damage" to timbre and phase. But to me the bandaid will never fix a fundamental design flaw. One can only hope to do the least damage to timbre in the time domain. Human ears are very sensitive to it, and I can hear it every time.

These two features combine to distort time and phase accuracy. If Wilson addressed these issues, perhaps I would give them another listen. Until they do, count me out as a fan of their products. The flashy paint jobs are excessive and unappealing to my eyes and ears.