Hi Tubes
I certainly expected that you had some sort of problem and that it wasn't completely fabricated. I had no need to question your initial post nor did I but when the manufacturer of said product went on the record to say it never happened. It is the ONLY reason I responded as you seemed satisfied not to rebut it in your second post. You indicated that this happened when you were "young and naive", maybe decades ago? Or are you still young but less naive? In any case if it happened many moons back it may explain why Ralph doesn't recall it happening. Obviously SOMETHING happened and if you are offering your experiences with a product(s) that are being completely disputed by the offending party wouldn't you want to go on the record to clarify it to everyone reading? Your comments about his business agenda, well Al Marg summed up my sentiments concerning that although you see it differently, fine you're certainly entitled to that conclusion. This is where I detected a bit of "bitter", maybe not?
Yes, I am guilty as charged of being a 3rd party observer however I have no relationship with Atma-sphere in any capacity nor have I owned any of their products but I certainly know folks that own or have with few issues I'm personally aware of and certainly not the recurring problems you encountered with different Atma-sphere products. Yes, I do admire Ralph and value his contributions which more often than not touch on areas beyond endorsing his products in those most subtle ways all but the most astute would take notice. No offense to you intended if any was taken and thank you for your clarification.
I certainly expected that you had some sort of problem and that it wasn't completely fabricated. I had no need to question your initial post nor did I but when the manufacturer of said product went on the record to say it never happened. It is the ONLY reason I responded as you seemed satisfied not to rebut it in your second post. You indicated that this happened when you were "young and naive", maybe decades ago? Or are you still young but less naive? In any case if it happened many moons back it may explain why Ralph doesn't recall it happening. Obviously SOMETHING happened and if you are offering your experiences with a product(s) that are being completely disputed by the offending party wouldn't you want to go on the record to clarify it to everyone reading? Your comments about his business agenda, well Al Marg summed up my sentiments concerning that although you see it differently, fine you're certainly entitled to that conclusion. This is where I detected a bit of "bitter", maybe not?
Yes, I am guilty as charged of being a 3rd party observer however I have no relationship with Atma-sphere in any capacity nor have I owned any of their products but I certainly know folks that own or have with few issues I'm personally aware of and certainly not the recurring problems you encountered with different Atma-sphere products. Yes, I do admire Ralph and value his contributions which more often than not touch on areas beyond endorsing his products in those most subtle ways all but the most astute would take notice. No offense to you intended if any was taken and thank you for your clarification.