4 ohm taps on an 8 ohm speaker


I'm using a Cary V12r (with 6550 output tubes) to drive a pair of Verity Fidelio Encores. I've always used the 8 ohm taps on the amp. Recently, on a whim, I tried the 4 ohm tap and enjoyed a significant improvement in sound quality. The amp is quieter, with reduced background noise, and the bass tightened up and became more defined. So two questions: 1) I don't think I'm hurting the amp by running it this way, but I'd be curious to hear if anyone has an opinion on that, and 2) Any thoughts on why the 4 ohm taps would sound better on an 8 ohm speaker? Regards.
grimace
Hopefully Al **will** chime in. But in the interim, much has been written about this subject. Before I go off the techno-babble deep-end here, let me say that I am dubious that trying different output taps will harm a tube amp. In most cases the conventional wisdom is to use the taps that sound best ... to you.

Al ... I started to explain my understanding of nominal tap output impedance, back impedance matching, output voltage regulation, and so forth, but started writing a magnum opus. So please ... chime in.

Let me just say that if a tube amp is able to produce clean power off the 4 ohm taps while it is driving a speaker whose impedance likely varies, possibly quite considerably as a function of frequency, then I would expect that bass will be tighter and extended, and higher frequencies less augmented.

The reason is that in most cases the "apparent" output impedance of the tube amp will be lower off the 4 ohm taps, thus resulting in less output voltage variation. I want to emphasize that this assumes the amp is being operated within its design parameters, i.e., not being over-driven.

In other words, the tube amp will perform somewhat like a Voltage Paradigm amp (almost always a SS amp). Most SS amps have extremely low output impedance and present a constant voltage source to the speakers if operated within their operating parameters.

Now ... what I just wrote assumes that the speakers in question were designed and voiced to be driven by a SS amp. In such cases, tube amps having lower output impedances and therefor tighter source output voltage regulation will possibly do a better job driving such speakers off the 4 ohm taps ... **IF** the amp is able to deliver clean power.

By contrast, if the amp is overdriven, the impedance mismatch between the speakers and the amp will result is attenuated power delivery and increased distortion which will likely sound bad. Unless, one likes to listen to tube amps while they clips and produce lots of funky distortion. :)
Bruce (Bifwynne), looks like you and I and Anthony (Clio09) were all responding at the same time. Great minds think alike! The one very slight qualification I would make to your post is that the reference to higher frequencies being less augmented relative to the bass when the speaker is driven by an amp having lower output impedance depends, of course, on how the impedance of the particular speaker varies as a function of frequency. Although the impedance behavior implicit in your statement is a common one.

Best,
-- Al
Right on Al. Actually, what I had in mind was a speaker with low'ish impedance in the bass/lower midrange frequencies, with a peak at the mid/tweeter crossover point. As I'm sure most would agree, matching a high'ish output impedance tube amp to that kind of load would tend to attenuate bass and augment the mids and low treble.

I would add one more point. Current delivery capability, albeit a subset of my comment about an amp operating within its design parameters.

More specifically, many speakers not only have low'ish impedances in the bass frequency region, but also capacitive (negative) phase angles. In other words, tough loads. Hopefully, regardless of the tap used, the amp in question will have enough power supply reserve to muscle its way through the tough spots.

Best,

BIF
Thanks a lot for the explanation Al, you ARE the man!!!
I think you nailed it with the first line in your last paragraph: "The bottom line: It pays to experiment with the different taps, and no harm will result regardless of which tap is selected."

Cheers,
John
Thanks for the responses gentlemen. Interesting stuff. Glad to hear I'm not hurting the amp. It does sound much better on the 4 ohm taps.