t always remains an illusion, I listen a lot (for corona) to live music and yes, then you can see the music and you can see and hear the depth. I also read a lot of audio magazines, and if you read that such a reviewer is talking about the soundstage and surprising depth. Well sorry, I am already quite used to audio installations, but there has been none of which you could say, for example, "hear those basses in the choir back there"
A while ago I heard those Magico M2 and M6, they cost a hell of a lot the sound is fantastic but I haven't been able to perceive that depth anyway.
Example: There is an audio Highend dealer in my area that sometimes organizes a listening session, with live music, which is then recorded on a Studer A80 mastermaschine, and then played and top installation with speaker from the 75K range. Yes, it is almost real.
I myself have been trying for years to thin the "net curtains" between reality and the installation as possible but
it continues to make do
A deeper more holographic soundstage.
I was wondering by what means you have created a deeper soundstage. I am satisfied with the width but I really feel it is a bit 2 dimensional. It doesn't go back far enough. I like more layers of sound that reach towards you from the blackness.
As I've already spent quite a bit on my system I am unable to buy much more expensive components.
Did you upgrade one component that made the difference? Placement of speakers? New footers or tweaks such as Stillpoints?
Two subs instead of one(I have one)? Different placement of subs? I am working with a very tight space so it is difficult to move things without them being in the center of the room.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
As I've already spent quite a bit on my system I am unable to buy much more expensive components.
Did you upgrade one component that made the difference? Placement of speakers? New footers or tweaks such as Stillpoints?
Two subs instead of one(I have one)? Different placement of subs? I am working with a very tight space so it is difficult to move things without them being in the center of the room.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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I agree with the comments on the room making a big impact. In this room, I had exceptional depth. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/6378#&gid=1&pid=1 In this room, I didn't have the same depth (but the speakers are the same model). The sound was a wide wall of sound. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/9046#&gid=1&pid=2 |
Wow, OP has to be totally confused after all this! Unfortunately, optimizing audio systems is very complex undertaking, lots of good advice through thread. Only personal experience with advice here will get you to system's full potential. Changes you undertake will have variable results. In the end, every single thing in your system, from the ac feed to room has an effect on sound stage and imaging. I don't know if this has been mentioned, but many rooms are not symmetrical. Positioning of speakers and acoustic treatments must take this into effect. |
In this room, I had exceptional depth.Let me see, ah!!! yes more image and depth destroying stuff between the speakers in the second one. And the first one would have been even better again if what is between the speakers was moved to the side instead. Cheers George |
Add an ambient rear channel, which is NOT just two more speakers in the back. Look up what an ambient loop is. Also, if you can find one, a Dynaco Quadapter is essential if you want to maintain an 8 ohm or 4 ohm front speaker setup. I've been using this setup since 1972, and it blows away any supposed 4 channel system. My email is prvk@earthlink.net if you want to get in touch with me. :-) |
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