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A not sarcastic question for the power conditioner/upgraded power cord folks

And I realize that there are those that don’t believe in either

Assuming you use a power conditioner and after market power cords, do you feel that the power cord from the power conditioner to the wall might be a limiting or even a negating factor to the performance of the after market power cords that run from the power conditioner to the gear?

The reason I ask is that I was about to embark upon some more experimentation with different power cords and where I plugged them into when I discovered that the aftermarket cords I had purchased before and some recent arrivals are actually a meter shorter than the ones that came with the gear. This doesn’t matter for the amp due to its location, but when I did my last power cord upgrade I ran my CDP and pre into a conditioner so the length for those didn’t matter either, but as I was doing the musical chairs with power cords thing today, I also was intending to run the CDP and pre straight into the wall on separate dedicated circuits, but I found out that I am a tad short on those two.

Which doesn’t preclude me from moving my dedicated circuit outlets up a couple of feet, and I suppose I probably will, but I was curious as to the opinions about the limitations of a power conditioners power cord.

immatthewj
kennymacc
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@immatthewj 

I wouldn't advise you do that either.  Based on my 25 years of experience and experimentation with high end power cables and power conditioners, I found that all things sound better plugged into, not just a power conditioner, but "the right type of non-power restricting  power conditioner."  Currently, and for the foreseeable future, I use an Audioquest Niagara 3000 power conditioner, which has 2 "high-current" outlets on it's back panel, which are specifically design for amplifiers.  I have all my components plugged into the Niagara 3000 power conditioner with phenomenal results.  The Niagara 3000 is the best I've ever owned.  Happy listening.       

   

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mclinnguy
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holy crap @chuck that must be one the longest posts I have ever seen- good stuff! 

immatthewj OP
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@mclinnguy

holy crap @chuck that must be one the longest posts I have ever seen- good stuff!

I am not arguing with what’s in that post, but I think it’s a cut and paste from something I remember seeing somewhere else recently. The Absolute Sound, maybe?

And as far as what it says, I won’t argue with anything become I am a pure ignorant novice on this stuff, but I cannot help but feel that a dedicated run of 12-2 (although 10-2 may be better) has got to be superior to running your audio off the same circuit all sorts of other household stuff is on.

celtic66
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Furutech DPS 4.1 PC run from wall receptacle to Puritan Labs 156, replacing their stock PC was revelatory.  This was replicated in my friend’s system with same Puritan Labs 156.  We were both taken aback.  Happy listening.

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audphile1
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@kennymacc fyi…your AQ Niagara uses transformers and as such it is an active power conditioner. It works on the same principle as a Puritan PSM156 which is a current limiting active power conditioner. May be the high current outlets in the Niagara 3000 bypass the circuit with transformers but the fact that you have transformers already means you are limiting current.
Your best shot at a non current limiting power conditioner is with a passive Shunyata units.
In my experience power conditioner is not a mandatory item. Whether you need or not depends on quality of power in your dwelling and quality of power supplies in your components. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. 

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