Adding a “safe haven” forum for discussion of tweaks?

Segregation by affinity choices may be working in Heaven where all is perfect... 😊 😁 or on some other audio forums...

But we live on earth, and we are in Audiogon, a test field where we must learn to live TOGETHER when we can...

Learning here is the road ...

Stars could segregate themselves in an "apparent" perfection...But it is an illusion, even stars encounters other than themselves and learn...

Then i try like star to shine on everyone and not segregate between my fellow stars human beings...For sure i prefer some over others, but politeness and communication is the key....

I dont believe nor wait for others to change i have the job to change myself first....

We are like trees which never chose the ground where they are growing and our body is not for us our choice at birth, we are born with it, nor our actual mind is only our choice, we are born with a mind-set of our own, specific, we must learn to make all that our own freeing choices in life...What exist is not FREEDOM but the freeing gesture...The road exist only the way you walk all along it with the shoes you have at the beginning....

But there is hope for humanity in reformation yes...

It is coming now...

Materialism is DEAD...

IDOLS are dead like was saying Nietzsche ...

But the actual new vocabulary concepts of a new humanity emerge right now in science and in psychology, in religions ...

This new concepts are complex and completely new...

In a word for me we go from an external relation to Nature to an intrernal one...

Humanity dont use duality now so much but POLARITY...IT BEGINS... It is no more the motto "distinguising to unite" but the motto "distinguishing without separating"... Reform dont need segregation...A new vision dont change phenomenon location so much than the eye of the seer....

And the language of polarities mirror the dynamic working inside and outside the body in ONE FREEING COSMIC GESTURE....

What i called polarities in the Goethe tradition, Friston called them "Markov blanket"...It is a mathematical concept at the heart of his vision....

Karl Friston is one of the geniuses who will change science and who has already done so.......I give it as an example, i know many others... But this one is striking and very powerful genius able to change all biology fields and A.I. He had already...It is not news yet for all to know thats all.... ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW0JnjgCO3o&t=15s

@mahgister I don’t get why you would constantly keep wanting to get interrupted by rude, disrespectful, belittling, sarcastic, caustic, know it all blowhards.

If you are addicted to debating people that couldn’t care less about what you have to say, I can somewhat understand that, but even then...all the energy wasted on people that don’t really have anything important to the conversation seems like a tremendous waste of time.

I would happily reorganize this forum and society as a whole into groups of people that segregate themselves and live peacefully, independently, and away from each other.

Karl Friston.

He is one smart biscuit...

Karl Friston.

He is one smart biscuit...

His ideas are very simple and straightforward, but the way he used mathematical concepts to make these idea concrete tools is not simple at all though but not so much difficult than it seems at first sight...

His idea to describe perception and action at all levels with the concept of " Markov Blanket" neutralizing then the DECEPTIVE ILLUSORY SEPARATION between all levels of life and lifting the wall between subject and object by a deep mathematization of the polarites between inside flowing of information and the outside flowing of action at all levels of living systems is a complete revolution...

No materialism is possible and no solipsism ....

It is a return to Spinoza and Goethe and Cassirer against nominalism against after that Descartes dualism, against Kant transcendental representation, against all materialist "naivete" that reign supreme in the last 2 centuries....

It is a return to the RELATION that makes all life only ONE net of beings in a hierarchical reflexion of integrating and interacting minds/body polarities levels organizations...

That is my take on Friston...

But trust me so great genius Friston is and he is, Goethe contains more ideas and all Friston concepts are in Goethe already...Only his particular mathematization of his polarities was Friston gift to Goethe...

Take a look to Wolfgang Schad who use Goethe method to describe all mammals shapes details in a book about their articulate morphology in relation to the polarities between the three main physiological system : the polarity of nerve-sense and metabolic-limb systems and the mediating circulatory-respiratory system...

The polarity of Friston about inflowing information and outflowing action are complementary choices of polarities in relation to the goethean Perspective...But the 2 approach are based on the ultimate interprenetrating polarities between outside and inside and subject and phenomena anyway....

Polarities in general being, not external dualities, but internal dynamic and/or reflecting an internal dynamic  are not always bi-polar and could be multi-polar...They are reflected internal details or parts of the WHOLE manifested in  symbolic forms polarities...Through what Friston called "Markov blanket"....

Wolfgang Schad book:

http://www.adonispress.org/threefoldness.php

My deepest respect to perhaps someone linked by blood line to the great philosopher and mathematician Hoené Wronski... 😊

All Wronski mathematics and philosophy is created by an interpolation complex method using the polarities of being and knowledge in a hierarchy , these polarities correspond in their own way to the polarities chosen by Friston and called " Markov blanket"...

 Wronski was too much in advance on his time with his idea and paradoxically just too soon  before the many mathematical revolution like Group theory, set theory and many others which will hide the deepnees of his idea behind an already moving swiftly mathematical revolution...

Wronski anticipate Banach idea for example about functional analysis.... Banach said so not me....