Analytical or Musical Which way to go?


The debate rages on. What are we to do? Designing a spealer that measures wellin all areas shoulkd be the goal manufacturer.
As allways limtiations abound. Time and again I read designers yo say the design the speaker to measure as best they can. But it just does not sound like music.

The question is of course is: what happens when the speaker sounds dull and lifeless.

Then enters a second speaker that sounds like real music but does not have optimum mesurements?

Many of course would argue, stop right there. If it does not measure well it can't sound good.

I pose the question then how can a spekeer that sounds lifeless be acurrate?

Would that pose yhis question. Does live music sound dull and lifeless?
If not how can we ever be be satisified with such a spseker no matter how well it measures?
gregadd
>05-24-12: Josh358
>I'd draw a distinction, though, between picture-perfect response and accuracy with real-world material. If, say, pop recordings are hyped in the highs, as many are, you're likely to want a speaker that compensates for that.

You want neutral speakers plus a tone or tilt control which compensates for the bad recordings so that better recordings are not compromised.
Drew, I agree. However, many audiophiles dislike tone controls. This I think is a shame because while they shouldn't be, recordings are all over the place, with some so hot that they're virtually unlistenable on a good system.

From a speaker manufacturer's perspective, the speaker has to sound good *as is,* because that's how it's demoed and that's how most people will judge it. Some manufacturers go for flat, some go for a downtilt, most have poor dispersion in the highs and, unfortunately, most records are mixed to speakers that have poor dispersion in the highs. Now that digital EQ is readily available, I don't think it much matters. Polar response is more important, because that can't be fixed with equalization.
The debate rages on. What are we to do? Designing a spealer that measures well in all areas shoulkd be the goal manufacturer.

Uh, no. The goal should be to invoke in the listener as much of the thrill and emotional response to live music as possible. Measurements are just one means to the end, as are many others including subjective listening by people who are very familiar with what live music sounds like.

The few standard measurements that show up in test reports are nowhere near sufficient to build a speaker to. The one exception may be YG, which uses over 150 different tests and measurements. If you get that granular you *may* be able to go mostly by measurements to reach your goal. But you have to have previously established that satisfying all those measurements does in fact reach the real goal of evoking the proper listener response.

And speaking of measurements, are you talking in-room or anechoic? If anechoic, you can definitely come up with a speaker that measures well but has peaks and suckouts in-room. And if in-room, which room? Or do you do an average of several different room sizes and shapes with different amounts of furniture, carpet, and wall hangings?

Personally, I find that high resolution is vital for emotional musical involvement, but high resolution is also a two-edged sword. It can give you the little details of venue acoustics, inner detail, the complete formation and decay of notes, the artists' movements and breathing, individual characteristics of instruments and voices that bring the performance alive and connect you with the performers. It can also reveal flaws in the recording chain which--rather than enhancing the musical experience--harshly remind you that you're listening to a reproduction.

Getting the one kind of resolution without the other is the tricky part. That's why ultimately there has to be a subjective listening and voicing to balance musical resolution against anti-musical artifacts.
What if the choice was accurate vs. euphonic? Same parameters. Different semantics.