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Dear @senza : I think that the 20/3 needs no presentation for you and it's a superb TT better than MS or almost all named here and at the same level of the top Acoustic Signature but if still today in production you have an other great alternative with the Simon Yorke TT.

I don't like any of the tonearms you own and for very good reasons but never mind because that's me.

Try to use 9"-10" tonearms instead 12", for very good reasons too.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

Thanks for your answers and opinions.I didn’t think Origin Live could be that good. Interesting.I’m a bit surprised nobody talked about  Verdier or SME nor Brinkmann that are the more often talked about in this price range.

I sold my Platine Verdier to an SME owner ( SME 20/2 ). It was a significant upgrade in transparency and low level resolution.

Despite this for me the Platine Verdier had flaws, particularly regarding speed stability, noisy motor, and it got hosed off by my spare TT - a re-engineered Garrard 301.

Now the Platine Verdier owner has purchased a Brinkmann Balance. 

If you go with SME you need to get at least the 20/3 or 30/.. to get a better TT than your Raven.

I also have a friend with a Kuzma M, it is excellent, very low noise floor.

Personally, based on extensive listening I would be looking at the Brinkman Balance or Kuzma M. Note that the Kuzma M can only run 1 tonearm. The Brinkmann can do 2.

As far as the Kuzma R goes, the reviews are misleading. The platter and motor are both smaller than the M model. Its a great deck for the money, but the M is significantly better in my view.

It would be great to think that the Munich Hi End Show will take place this year.

It is a event that is a Mecca for enthusiasts across the Globe, and being based in Europe, attending this event will be reasonably easy to achieve.

All of the choices that make the shortlist and others that have not will most likely be available for a demonstration within the show.

If this is an appealing option, exhibitors can be contacted in advance, and informed of your interest in receiving a demonstration of certain products.   

The Balance is out of reach except a used model. It seem th tube PSU is mandatory with also theHRS base, and these « accessories «  significantly p raises the price. Never heard SME and opinions on them are convergent concerning build quality but rather divergent about SQ. 
concerning Verdier I heard the speed was not precisely 33,33, but that the motor kept it very constant. Now Raul said it’s not the case. Verdier better or worst sounding than SME 20.3 ? 
No dealer here is able to present 2 different TTs in the same price range, and the one they sell are told to be selected by them as « the » reference in their price range. I know it’s not the case as they all have deals with builders or importers for selling their products. That’s why I ask to real users for sharing real experiences.

In the end, if I compile what all of you David, Kuzma Stabi M seems the one to go, but only one arm. 

I second the PTP solid 9 or 12. Incredible table. Stabi R with 4Point otherwise.

But why not just upgrade your arm to the 4Point and keep the TW? Easier step and it will get you closer to the big boys than you think