Anybody want a laugh?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/254589502418

Yes, that’s a network switch marketed to Audiophiles. 
😆😂😆
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Then once again my last post leaves me with the problem I have with these expensive audiophile switches. No matter if they do clean the signal of some noise actually doing what they claim it’s not really important. For instance you take two equally dirty shirts, you prewash one then wash both in your washing machine they come out equally clean. What good did prewashing do? If you have an older washing machine it might help it’s basically the same thing here you have a good measuring DAC well engineered with isolated USB these switches don’t really matter the DAC is going to clean the signal.
@nonoise Not knowing how digital works really shows you need a primer on electrical engineering and design... Same applies for networks.

About the link to this fallacious article you provided, it is only trying to look like "technical" but only to fool people into buying expensive useless hardware... Audio is not transmitted "real time" to DAC so to speak, it's transmitted asynchronously and DAC has input buffering.  Again, an easy engineering thing...

How do you think CPU works in the gigahertz spectrum with billions of micro-transistors in multi-layer arrangement + in a mutual noisy environment without making any error? It’s not even logic at TTL levels, it’s lower than that! Billions of micro transmission lines, via, metal layers, etc. In the same enclosure, you have the GPU, the chipset, etc. all operating in gigahertz range.

So you’re sweet little low spectrum audio is really not an engineering challenge... The only challenge is external constraints like budget, contracts, quality control, compromises, etc. If you have any minimal knowledge in engineering, you should know that... As for networks, TCP/IP is so robust, you just need proper buffering to account for the fact that it’s a best effort network.

But hey, you can throw your money at the windows, it’s all up to you. It’s just disgusting to see how many people here on this board show complete disrespect for consumers....
@guyboisvert,
Who took the jelly out of your donut?

What I linked to was simply food for thought, nothing more. I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't use any kind of networking in my audio gear.

And that wasn't an article, if you cared to read it, but a review on a USB cable that's mid priced, at best. 

It's really amazing how the calls to authority come out of the woodwork when implying that music is not impervious to noise on the line.

All the best,
Nonoise
I second millercarbon's opinion on HFTs.  I have installed 32 of them, 3 types.   Five levels plus 5 per speaker (tweeter HFTs are a fail on my speakers).  The most important HFT is the side speaker ones with 1/8" change radically changes the frequency response up or down.  Instead of front and rear wall exterior treatments, HFTs are it!.  I have massive built in wall bass filtering/conditioning/traps and thick studio quality side wall and suspended ceiling acoustic panels.  I also think SRs fuses and power outlets are great buys.  However, I heard the ART system in a showroom and had them removed as well.  The difference was subtle better with them in but not worth my money.  The bass unit was a failure in my friend and my system, ruined the highs (none over 8Khz) and weirded up the sound (ah, but with a "darker" background).  SR is a great company for what they accomplished for my system.  
@nonoise  Yeah i know, you don't have "a dog" to respond to real arguments...  Your previous response "fueled" mine trying to sound superior and shut down real world digital principles...

"Knowing how it works doesn’t preclude that something poorly designed won’t have an effect".  This thread is about a network switch ripoff and abuse of consumer...  I'll repeat again and repeat with me: TCP/IP has been designed for best effort networks.  So what is you don't understand in that?

So after you add: "I have a funny feeling that there are some who actually believe that since it’s just ones and zeros, that they’re so small as to be unimportant. That’s fine for printing text but reproducing sound is another matter."
"So small to be unimportant":  You think that i, and engineers in general, don't know about the importance of errors in digital in general and how to handle it?

Not enough, you add: "That’s fine for printing text but reproducing sound is another matter"... You're trying to dismiss what i said and mixing things but at the end, it's the same.  Printing doesn't work if you send errors, be it on any interface / transport medium.  You really don't seem to understand digital in general: Storage, processing, transport, error correction, etc.

So the reason of my response.   I know what i'm talking about and Digital / network devices must be designed for the environment they are into.

Same apply for USB cables and the crap link you cited is just another of those stupid "trying to look technical" BS to push people wasting their money...
Computer interfaces, be it USB or any other, are designed to transfer data without errors...  Same apply for the USB interface of a DAC.  If you think it takes expensive cables, it's because you don't know about twisted pair, digital interfaces, checksums and async communications principles...  It's as simple as that.  Flip a bit and the checksum tells...so the idea of async communication + buffering.  If the DAC you buy can't handle that, it's simply because of a poor design.

So find back the "dog" you use at first toward me, barking doesn't impress me at all...  And study the subject before throwing your "funny feelings" around here...
All the best, my friend!