ARC VSi60 vs PrimaLuna Integrated Amps


I am considering purchasing one or the other, either an ARC VSi60 or a Primaluna Premium or Dialouge Two. I am sure many of the members have purchased both. I think that either one offer a lot of value. I would like to hear from anyone that has purchased one of these integrated amps, especially from those that AB'd them both with their speakers and why they chose one over the other.

Any feedback would be helpful . . .
ronkng
In the past I owned the ARC vsi60e and paired it most often with the Vandersteen 2ce and that combo was a superlative match. Never any problems or issues. Currently I own a Primaluna Dialogue 1and use it in my office system. Today I would choose the Primaluna over the ARC because of several reasons: First, the audio bias is so much fun because it makes tube-rolling a snap. The Dialogue series allows you so many tube choices, to name just a few, EL34s, 6L6s, KT88, KT66s, KT77 and many more...I am currently running Russian NOS 6n3ce (6L6 family), going to switch over to some KT88s soon.

Second, the build quality is tank-like, great hassle-free tube cage, good looks, many other nice qualities like Home Theatre pass through. Great built-in circuit protections.

Third, and most important, the amp is musical, again, you can tailor the sound to your heart content. I get a huge soundstage, well-layered, great midrange, singers are life like in size, very good detail, imaging and coherence, warmth and richness without going too far that way.

Fourth, Kevin Deal at Upscale audio is the real deal, kevin is a tube Guru, and he and his cohorts are what all high-end dealers should be...their knowledge is vast and they ship the right way and fast.

To conclude, the Primaluna is a fun trouble free amp that you can easily tune to your liking. As always synergy is key.
A friend had a prima luna-- broke twice within a yr.
I wouldn't exactly call that in the same league. But if you're into crazy tube rolling and all that, they do sound nice. Love the vsi60. Several friends have it with various speakers. Always musical, and dependable.
My Primaluna has been extremely reliable, never a problem. I also have several friends who own various models and also no problems. And, to disagree with poster above I like the sound of the Primaluna in my system as I have it configured much better than the Arc which without the Vandy's sounded dry with various other speakers. But the ARC was a great match with the Vandy. Like I said, system matching is always key.
My brother just alerted me to the fact that I confused my old ARC integrated with the new vsi60 integrated. Sorry for this mix-up. I must be going dotty and feel foolish. My comments on the Primaluna stand, but I have not listened to the new ARC.