ARC VSi60 vs PrimaLuna Integrated Amps

A friend had a prima luna-- broke twice within a yr.
I wouldn't exactly call that in the same league. But if you're into crazy tube rolling and all that, they do sound nice. Love the vsi60. Several friends have it with various speakers. Always musical, and dependable.

My Primaluna has been extremely reliable, never a problem. I also have several friends who own various models and also no problems. And, to disagree with poster above I like the sound of the Primaluna in my system as I have it configured much better than the Arc which without the Vandy's sounded dry with various other speakers. But the ARC was a great match with the Vandy. Like I said, system matching is always key.

My brother just alerted me to the fact that I confused my old ARC integrated with the new vsi60 integrated. Sorry for this mix-up. I must be going dotty and feel foolish. My comments on the Primaluna stand, but I have not listened to the new ARC.

Honestly there is no comparison I listened to 4 different tube amps with my speakers including Rouge, Conrad Johnson, Prima Luna, and ended up with the VSi60. The prima Luna dialogue is a fantastic amp and build quality is great as one would expect from any of these brands. The points made about tube rolling are valid and the auto bias circuitry is a phenomenal feature. In my system the VSi60 presented the most low level detail and the widest deepest soundstage with less coloration and more punch and precision on the bottom end. Some amps did some things better but overall nothing SS or Tube sounded quite like the ARC. These things are also system dependent. The best advice I can give you is make friends with your local dealers and listen to everything!

Anyone heard these with Focals? I have focal 1027Ss. I do not have the option of auditioning. From all the research I done it seems the VSI60 might be too "airy" and the PrimaLuna Prologue Premium might be a bit lacking in base? But, I can't find any reference to them with Focals. Any help with Focals or speakers similar sounding to Focals. Thanks!