ARE SUPER EXPENSIVE STREAMERS REALLY WORTH IT


Folks I am confused why some streamers need to be so eye wateringly expensive. I appreciate the internal basics need to be covered such as a high quality, low noise power supply and a decent processor speed etc..  but that is not rocket science.

So my question is could a decent streamer outputting its data stream via I2S to a good quality DAC receiving the I2S stream be a more cost effective way of rivalling let’s say a streamer costing 5k upwards.

I have heard and digested the argument for expensive streamers quality being centred around the management of the data timing via a quality clock circuit but there are very reasonable in relative terms, DAC’s out there that have dual super high quality temp controlled clocks within, at least the equal or arguably even better than the say a 5k streamer with some sporting dual high end DAC chips etc.

So could utilizing a good quality streamer and a separate high-quality DAC connected via I2S indeed offer significant benefits and potentially reduce the need for a very expensive streamer.

I say this with the knowledge that I2S is designed to preserve and separate the Signals so avoiding the timing issues connected with multiplexing. I2S (Inter-IC Sound) separates the music signal from the timing signal, potentially eliminating jitter or at the very least greatly reducing the possibility for the pesky music killing jitter which we all could agree would lead to improving overall sound quality.

Wouldn’t this separation ensure that the timing information is more accurately preserved, even when compared to a high price streamer, leading as clean or cleaner and more precise audio data output. With I2S, the DAC can use its own high-quality clock/s to synchronize the data, which will reduce jitter and improve sound quality.

Could this possibly mean that even if the streamer has a less advanced clock, the DAC’s superior clock can take over, ensuring best  performance.

So bang for buck would it not be advantageous to investing in a high-quality DAC and using a good but not necessarily top-tier streamer to achieve excellent sound quality without the need for an extremely expensive streamer. Surely the DAC’s performance will play a crucial role in the final sound quality.

Play gentle with the pile on please....................

nubiann

People don’t get i2s, probably they don’t want to spend the money for better equipment that has this interface. People claim they worry about noise, clocking, etc, and you would be right if you are using usb. The old days I used usb just like 99% of the people, mostly because the servers, streamers, dacs didn’t include i2s. I also purchased a bunch of gimmicks/tweaks on usb clocks/reockers/cables that separated the power and data cables using usb, and in the end, it all sucked.

I did have a dac system that used i2s decades ago that was audio alchemy. Their i2s cable was strange. For decades, many sacd manufacturers had an hdmi interface between their sacd player and their preamp. Thes were all i2s and yes they were proprietary. 
I used Ethernet into the dac for a few years over using usb. Now, I’m using a streamer that its main function in life is to be a Roon endpoint and read data from Ethernet and the output uses i2s into the dac

I went from a Blusound Vault 2i to an Aurender N200 ... not super expensive but considerably more money. Given that it is my most frequently used source , I have to say it was worth it to me. I got a great deal by leveraging another component toward it on a trade in but I have no regrets about doing it. I love that machine. I get a lot of enjoyment out of it so money we’ll spent.

I think Jim summed it up for me with respect to Bluesound VS Aurender .   I still use my Vault in my second system.   Still a great platform.   

I’m using a blue sound node 130 with an upgraded LPS going into a Denafrips Hermes DDC and the new Denafrips Venus 15 DAC. I have not heard other streamers,  but I think this combination sounds great. Hi-Rez files from Qobuz can sound better than original vinyl pressings of the same recordings.

So I don’t think it’s necessary to have an expensive streamer to have musically satisfying sound. It’s a personal choice whether further improvement justifies the expense. From what I’ve been told the Innuos Sense app may have features which the BluOS lacks, and this sort of thing may also justify an upgrade.