Agreed jtcf. I just put 12au7s across V1-V8 in my tube DAC, which specifies 12ax7s and 12at7s. I dislike messing with what the designer intended but I have gain coming out my ears over here.
Audiophile Loudness Wars—Too Much again!?
Obviously a huge chunk of popular western music has been involved in the loudness wars of the recording industry. But do we now have Hifi loudness wars? Sometimes I look at or try out new pieces, and think audio designers are putting too much gain in our preamps, amps, and DACs. Or am I off here? You won’t hurt my feelings.
I’m getting a sense that lots of gear falls over the side of center towards higher gain.
Hey, it happens to me! You can’t edit titles. It’s supposed to be “too much gain”.
I’m getting a sense that lots of gear falls over the side of center towards higher gain.
Hey, it happens to me! You can’t edit titles. It’s supposed to be “too much gain”.
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I think when it comes to DACs and other digital gear, the differences in decoding are immaterial. There are no "musical" dac chips etc, its 1's and 0's. The level of "jitter" or other artifacts in even low end digital gear is well below audible levels. The differences in sound you might actually hear are largely attributed to the output stages, and to gain a perceived sonic advantage, or to justify prices, you get some seriously overbuilt output devices which leads to excess gain. You did the right thing by using a lower output tube. The other option would be to plug directly to the amp, but that would only work if the component has some kind of volume control, which many do. If you are going to go the separates route, skip the DAC and just get a basic cd player or streamer and a really good preamp. |
Audiophile Loudness Wars—Too Much again!? Best to remedy this is to use a dac that has inbuilt (digital domain at or above 75% level) gain control if you have one. If used below 75% volume you run the risk of "bit stripping" detail away. And if your dac has no volume control, nothing worse for signal to noise ratio and final distortion, than heavily knocking back the "dacs output level" with an active pre because the active preamp or amp has too much gain That’s why passive pre’s are the best and least colored, great if impedance matching between input to output is observed to be no less than 1:10 ratio. And also active preamps ones Schiit make are very little gain, and also can be switched to passive. Cheers George |
@jbhiller, Here a list, of five preamps that have gain control adjustments. Audible illusions, Rogue audio, Decware, Parasound, PS audio. http://www.audibleillusions.com/products/l3-line-stage-preamplifier/ http://www.rogueaudio.com/Products_RH5.htm https://www.decware.com/newsite/ZTPRE.html https://parasound.com/jc2bp.php https://www.psaudio.com/products/bhk-signature-preamplifier/ |
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