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B&W Nautilus 804s and clipping

Hello there - this is my first post and I'd be grateful for any help you folks can offer me.

I'm building my first home stereo setup right now after years of waiting. The first component will be a used pair of B&W Nautilus 804s which I've found for a pretty good price.

My question is this: how can I tell whether the speakers have suffered somehow due to clipping? The reason I'm worried is that the guy I'm buying from has been running them off a Harmon Kardon AVR-3000 receiver (with 50W output in stereo mode). Isn't this likely to have caused some damage if he's been working the amp too hard? If so, will the tweeter etc. sound noticeably different from normal or will they just completely fail to produce sound?

I was only able to audition them using his amp, not having yet bought my own. Is it necessary to hear these with, for example, a power amp to know whether they are in good condition sonically?

Sorry to labour the point(s). Hope some of you can help!
borntorun
borntorun
jylee
306 posts
 
Occasional clipping is not going to damage the drivers. And when the drivers are damaged you'll notice right away. It'll either sound right or wrong. There is no middle state. B&W Nautilus tweeters are around $100 each.
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stringreen
6,466 posts
 
Elizabeth...that's not true. The B&W's do have a reputation for tweeter troubles...and they are easy to repair. I had a 802 and went through 3 tweeter...they just delaminated. The tweeters were given to me no charge by B&W, but they would have charged me labor. I did it myself..a couple of screws, and done. No soldering required. When my tweeters went bad, they simply stopped working. Put your ear to the individual speakers and make sure there is sound coming out of all of them.
borntorun OP
4 posts
 
Thanks for your help, everyone. I feel a bit more confident about buying these now since various familiar CDs sounded fine right across the spectrum.
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tobaccoleafpie
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How much are you paying?
musicnoise
377 posts
 
When testing the tweeter be sure to feed the speaker a signal that will truly test the tweeter. B&W sets there crossover for the tweeter rather high for the 800 series floorstanders. All vocals and 95 percent of the fundamental frequencies from classical music are actually handled by the midrange. B&W does a pretty good job of integrating the midrange with the tweeter but if you divert your ear from the midrange (i.e. hold a piece of foam or some other absorbing material at 90 degrees to the cabinet just below the tweeter and listen directly (close up) to the tweeter, you can find the source material that will be a good test disc. You may be surprised. Rock music with high end guitar riffs is the easiest source to test the tweeter,or a test disc with a range of tones. Of course once you find the proper source material then increase the volume and move back. If the tweeter is damaged and still 'works' you will hear it at high volumes -likely as a very noticible intermittent 'rasp' it will be obvious and will not require any guesswork. Just be sure to listen to your source material on a known good system beforehand. Much more common for the top mounted tweeter is damage that can be observed by careful visual inspection, tykes and inquisitive adults have a habit of 'pushing the button' - jamming their finger into the tweeter.
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