balanced vs. unbalanced sound quality

I'm guessing Johnson was referring to the signal path length within a balanced circuit, not within a balanced cable.

Often the signal path within a balanced circuit is simpler. At least that is the case in our stuff. For example, in our preamps there are only 2 stages of gain in the phono section and only 1 in the line stage. From LOMC to the ability to drive headphones. Rather than repeat myself though, here's an article that might be helpful regarding balanced operation:http://www.atma-sphere.com/Resources/balanced.php

My comment about Keith Johnson’s statement wasn’t intended to endorse it, but rather to clarify it (correctly, I hope). I imagine there are as many ways to build a balanced circuit as there are design engineers. EAR-Yoshino’s Tim de Paravicini chooses to provide balanced outputs via transformers, his single-ended and balanced outputs sharing the exact same circuit. While Ralph Karsten has the engineering chops to create very simple, fully-differential balanced circuits in his Atma-Sphere products, other engineers (the ones to whom Johnson may have been referring) have resorted to a doubling of path length and parts count.

I know this is an old thread but it seems like it was made for my questions. I use a Rotel rb991 and an older pioneer elite vsx45tx as my pre on a two channel setup.

When I use rca connections I get substantial hum, my avr does not have balanced outs so to get rid of all the noise from the RCA’s I purchased an rca to xlr adapters and that took care of the hum but my volume decreased by half.

I do however have a stronger and tighter bass, actually the whole sound is now very uncolored, I have been told if I go to a pre that has balanced out to the amps balanced I will get some of my volume back because the adapters mute the signal in some way? Where I was listening at a pretty loud -30db is now at reference to come close to the old unbalanced connection.

Im a musician and I compare the difference in sound from unbalanced to balanced like playing my guitar through a high gain amp head without any processor, it’s dry and precise, the unbalanced sounds louder but like I added some delay and reverb, a very manufactured sound.

You guys seem very educated in all this and I’ve enjoyed reading what has been discussed so far,just trying to further my understanding by picking your brains.

I do however have a stronger and tighter bass, actually the whole sound is now very uncolored, I have been told if I go to a pre that has balanced out to the amps balanced I will get some of my volume back because the adapters mute the signal in some way?

The reason this is happening is because the Rotel employs two sets of inputs that are independent of each other. The balanced input converts its output to single-ended; that signal is then applied to the single-ended input.
The balanced input needs two inputs- non-inverted and inverted; if it only gets one (which is what happens when you use an adapter) then the gain is reduced by 6db which is pretty audible.

A balanced preamp would solve this.

Thank you atmashpere!