Hoptimum is about 10%ABV -- go easy! O'Dell's Mercenary another fine big pale, tho perhaps not as good as Hoptimum. Founder's is making a lot of good big beers (the exception being their unfortunate Hazelnut Coffee flavred offering).
John - Agree on Founders. Nearly every flavor is very big and good. Us beer imbibers live in an amazing time with so many terrific choices out there these days. I feel like a kid in a candy store sometimes.
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