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Best used or new DAC under $3500

What would be the best DAC for under $3500, new or used? I currently use the Chord Dave and I LOVE it. However, I'm looking to downgrade to save some dough. Some reference points:

1) Yggdrasil:  Sold it as the staging was too narrow/flat and it seemed a little lifeless
2) Ayre QB-9 DSD: Feel its a bit too bright/tizzy - at this point I'm done trying Sabre DACs.

Can anyone recommend a DAC that is not a mainstream sabre chip based DAC? I dont mind it if its an older generation or vintage DAC either - Just something I can get for under $3500. I don't want a discussion to defend Sabre DACs please.

Thanks!

jozurr
david_ten
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@wig  What happened??? One of the quickest turnarounds in DAC land....
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wig
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@ david_ten

You know how it is when you have your heart set on something and needed to follow thru; the BP is a very good Dac too and the shortest I've owned a component.

Wig
david_ten
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@wig   Understood. Follow your heart... +1
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georgehifi
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Supposedly the Yggdrasil also uses something no other DAC uses:

AD5791

It’s also not an audio d/a converter, but one (it said) used for things like missile guidance circuits.
Now it won’t have the good audio specs as say the last best PCM1704 R2R/multibit 24bit specific audio dac has, but if this matters, who knows?
Best to if your up to it compare the two with their data sheets.

Yggdrasils AD5791 http://www.analog.com/media/en/technical-documentation/data-sheets/AD5791.pdf

Burr Browns (TI): PCM1704: http://www.qlshifi.com/jszl/PCM1704.pdf

Cheers George
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gdhal
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Best to if your up to it compare the two with their data sheets.

Hi George. I'll leave the technical dissection to you if you don't mind. I have looked at the AD5791 previously, but can't say I completely understand it. By all means, let me know how the two DAC chips compare. Besides, isn't it you who states that the chip itself is only a small percentage of the overall sound. I'm led to believe the implementation of the chip and rest of the analog circuit is paramount. 
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