Hey Maxwell it is quite AMAZING that no one is interested in ribbons, which are infinetly superior to traditional cone mid tweeters. Check out the thread by Mrgigi "raven and oter ribbons" posted 2-16-02. No responce!!! From my thread "electrostat shootout at 4000 coral" i've learned that the quad is the best electrostat. But i have a hunch that the Woofer + Ribbon speaker is in some aspects superior to electrostats, in bass, efficiency and highs, the electrostats are probably superior in the mids. Come on plato gasman detlof tireguy ya'll live in places that have all the lines of speakers tell us about the ribbons. Maxwell how do these Carver speakers sound? price? web site? Check out a line called Ambience $6K(australian) as well as VMPS Ribbon Monitor 1 $1600