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Biokleen Bac Out cleaner

Has anyone try using the Biokleen Bac Out cleaner or their General Purpose cleaner to clean records?
The Biokleen Bac Out cleaner have enzymes in it to dissolve dirt, grease, stains. I am considering to give it a try on some discarded records at first to see the results. Here is what I plan to do: buy a bottle of Biokleen Bac out cleaner and a bottle of Biokleen general purpose cleaner. Mix some Biokleen general purpose cleaner with distilled water. Then:

1. Steam clean the record first
2. wash the record with the Biokleen Bac Out cleaner (with Enzymes)
3. Wash the record again with the Biokleen general purpose cleaner (mixed with distilled water)
3. Use my record cleaning machine to to vacuum the record.

Does anyone have any comments?
I will post the results.
almandog
kenyonbm
141 posts
 
I have tried it and do not recommend it.

Bac-out contains lime extracts and "live enzyme producing cultures" of bacteria, and stabilizers. They are not specific about the exact ingredients.

It may loosen dirt, oil or what ever but will be hard to rinse off the cleaner itself, especially since we don't know what it is made of.

It does leave your records limey fresh though.

Ken
maclogan
49 posts
 
Enzyme cleaners do not dissolve dirt, grease, and stains unless the dirt, grease, and stains are of biological origin. If they're not you're wasting your time and money.
opalchip
355 posts
 
I use MoldZyme for problems where I suspect noise due to mildew in the grooves. First off - the only ingredients in MoldZyme are: Water, Fermented Vegetable Matter (the enzymes), and Natural Surfactants. I have let it soak on lp's for hours and it has not caused damage.

The problem with mildew is that it may adhere to the vinyl more tenaciously than dust or grease. So a typical alcohol/surfactant combo cleaner often doesn't work on it - that's when I suspect there is a mold issue.

If after vigorous cleaning with Disk Doctor cleaner I still have surface noise on a mint looking lp, I pull out the MoldZyme. Spray it on very liberally and let it soak for 10 minutes or more, then I use the DD pads as normal, rinse, then re-clean with the usual DD fluid. This often completely eliminates the problems. I sometimes wonder why not just use the MoldZyme to start with - it's extremely effective and much cheaper than "audiophile fluid".

Here's a link to one internet seller - it's also available in stores:
http://www.greenhome.com/products/bath/basin_and_tile_cleaners/110295/
almandog OP
141 posts
 
Thank you for your input.
This evening I tried out the Biokleen prodcts. I noticed that the General Purpose cleaner leave some white residue on the LP, but the Bac Out cleaner did not. I will do further testing with my home brewed recipe (which contains a pint of alcohol, 30 drops of Kodak ortoflo surfacant, two table spoon of Lysol, and a gallon of distilled water (Internet recipe)), Audio Intelligent fluids, and the Biokleen Bac Out Cleaner. Plus I steam clean the LP before applying the fluids.
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