Biokleen Bac Out cleaner


Has anyone try using the Biokleen Bac Out cleaner or their General Purpose cleaner to clean records?
The Biokleen Bac Out cleaner have enzymes in it to dissolve dirt, grease, stains. I am considering to give it a try on some discarded records at first to see the results. Here is what I plan to do: buy a bottle of Biokleen Bac out cleaner and a bottle of Biokleen general purpose cleaner. Mix some Biokleen general purpose cleaner with distilled water. Then:

1. Steam clean the record first
2. wash the record with the Biokleen Bac Out cleaner (with Enzymes)
3. Wash the record again with the Biokleen general purpose cleaner (mixed with distilled water)
3. Use my record cleaning machine to to vacuum the record.

Does anyone have any comments?
I will post the results.
almandog
I use MoldZyme for problems where I suspect noise due to mildew in the grooves. First off - the only ingredients in MoldZyme are: Water, Fermented Vegetable Matter (the enzymes), and Natural Surfactants. I have let it soak on lp's for hours and it has not caused damage.

The problem with mildew is that it may adhere to the vinyl more tenaciously than dust or grease. So a typical alcohol/surfactant combo cleaner often doesn't work on it - that's when I suspect there is a mold issue.

If after vigorous cleaning with Disk Doctor cleaner I still have surface noise on a mint looking lp, I pull out the MoldZyme. Spray it on very liberally and let it soak for 10 minutes or more, then I use the DD pads as normal, rinse, then re-clean with the usual DD fluid. This often completely eliminates the problems. I sometimes wonder why not just use the MoldZyme to start with - it's extremely effective and much cheaper than "audiophile fluid".

Here's a link to one internet seller - it's also available in stores:
http://www.greenhome.com/products/bath/basin_and_tile_cleaners/110295/
Thank you for your input.
This evening I tried out the Biokleen prodcts. I noticed that the General Purpose cleaner leave some white residue on the LP, but the Bac Out cleaner did not. I will do further testing with my home brewed recipe (which contains a pint of alcohol, 30 drops of Kodak ortoflo surfacant, two table spoon of Lysol, and a gallon of distilled water (Internet recipe)), Audio Intelligent fluids, and the Biokleen Bac Out Cleaner. Plus I steam clean the LP before applying the fluids.
Opalchip should really learn some basic biochemistry before making his claims about a product called MoldZyme. If the ingredients are as he reports, and if the "fermented vegetable matter" in fact contains active enzymes after the fermentation process is complete, there will be little if any active enzyme present after the surfactant is added. Surfactants in significant concentration deactivate enzymes, and deactivated enzymes are useless. They do nothing to anything. Likewise, if Almandog is adding the "Biokleen Bac Out Cleaner" to his otherwise sensible witches' brew, all he is doing is destroying any enzymatic activity which might have originally been present in the product. It's the other ingredients that are doing the cleaning.

The only activity associated with some of these enzyme-based cleaners is in the bank accounts of the people who sell them to gullible audiophiles.
Maclogan,
You have to be right, after all you have a back ground in chemistry....

Giving some thought to your comment above including else where here on Audiogon relating to this subject.
The results using active enzyme base cleaners for vinyl, have to be imaginary.

Oh man....I feel SO embarrassed being suckered like this by Lloyd Walker.
It's too late for me to return the Prelude kit and Step 4 rinse for a full refund....

Well, live and learn.
Here is a formula that I can recommend and it is dirt cheap, easy to make and easy to remove.

900ml distilled water
89 ml of Isopropyl alcohol
1 or 2 ml of Triton X-100

I got the X-100 from Thechemistrystore.com, like $10/qt.

To rinse I can recommend this mixture

990 ml distilled water
10 ml isopropyl alcohol

The problem with all the "witch's brews" is the added ingredients in home cleaning products, like colorings or fragrances etc. and just not knowing what you are working with.

Hope this helps.

Ken
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