Borderpatrol Dac SE


I've been seeing this DAC mentioned a lot everywhere lately, hearing that it performs way above its price class, etc.

I took the leap and bought one.  Mind you I've only broken it in for 48 hours but I'm at this point I'm not sure it will ever open up.

So far it has really soft and closed in treble with no air or decay.  Mids are okay, bass is a little soft without great definition or extension.  Imaging is ok but feels a little confused.

To be honest it's getting smoked by my current Fostex HP-A8.  The Fostex is the design antithesis of what's gaining traction:  a delta sigma AKM chip.

Owners:  does this thing ever open up, or has the Sopra unmasked another pretender?  If this is "analog" sound, I think I'll pass the next time I hear that descriptor.

System:  

roon
Sotm Sms-200
Perla Audio Sig 50
Focal Sopra 2
emcdade
I purchased the Border Patrol SEi DAC back in July 2019. Upon initial setup I hated it. It sounded thin and lifeless right out of the box. I immediately had buyer’s remorse and wanted to send it back. I put some thought into it and decided to burn it in for a couple of weeks then revisit.

In the meantime I bought a Schiit Yggdrasil. I figured that based on the design and reviews I would likely be satisfied with it. And I was. The Yggy is very versatile and does a lot of things right. I put the BP back in line and things were much better. Warmer, more depth, more dynamic, and fuller bass. The Yggy still seemed to top it in my overly analytical mind. I sent the BP over to my father in law’s place to put into his system.

While enjoying listening sessions with my father in law I grew envious of what the BP was doing for his system. There was this undeniable sweetness to the presentation that brought you into the music and made you want to listen all day. There is some fine detail loss with this DAC, and it does struggle with fast transients. But heck, for most of the music I listen to it is very satisfying. But nonetheless, my logic kept pulling my back to the Yggy. After all, how could the BP be better in any way? Too small, too light, simple design, old outdated Phillips chip.

Fast forward to April 2020 and I am revamping my system due to Covid-19 isolation boredom. I sold my Primaluna Evo 300 integrated, a Primaluna Prologue Premium integrated, a Rogue Audio Sphinx, and....(more to follow) to make room for my newly acquired First Watt F7. I am also waiting on a new Linear Tube Audio MicroZotl preamp. I am looking into a new transport as well (Either Jay’s CDt2 MkII or Project CD Box Rs2 T).

Anyway, yesterday I grabbed the BP from my father in law’s place with the intent of doing a A/B comparison between it and the Yggy once my LTA preamp arrives. Last night I put my only remaining amp into my system (Onkyo Tx8050, 80w, $299) and started playing music through it and the BP. The BP made this cheap amp sound fantastic, more so than the Yggy. In an ideal world I would keep both DACs, but I decided to let the Yggy go. I listed it on A-gon last night and it sold this morning. More money for my transport!

I know, some of you will think I am crazy for letting the Yggy go in favor of the BP. Well, for once my heart is victorious over reason. And the Border Patrol touches my heart in a way that the Yggy could not.

Keithc,

Your post is an interesting and insightful read. I completely understand your decision to choose the Border Patrol DAC over the Schitt. Your final paragraph sums it up clearly. I would have done the same. Listening to and interacting with music is an emotionally involving experience. You have to follow your heart in this situation.

Charles

I had Gary Dewes upgrade my BP DAC to the SE-i version.  As great as it was it's now even better.
Just purchased the SE-i and out of the box it sounded AMAZING! The best DAC I’ve owned. In a nutshell smooth, natural sounding with huge power on the low end. One of the best upgrades in my system and highly recommend to anyone looking at the this unit.
-Alex
Had mine for over 2 years... Gary says upgrade to i version makes it sound more organic. This will not help the bass issue, its way too soft and boomy even with a fully treated room of GIF panels. Another member suggests I should but the Audio Mirror. I’m looking for a natural sounding DAC with a very tight and deep bass, up to 5k new or used, any suggestions?