Jaytoy, Apogees have for the most part gone underground, both literally, and figurative. There are still thousands of mint Apogees out there, but they are almost all locked up in people's dedicated listening rooms. There is also a thriving Apogee forum where one finds Apogees, learns to care for them, and what ancillary equipment works with them. The Perigee creater, Graz, produces replacement ribbons for all models, and there is a long time Apogee builder, Robert Dragunas, who has all ribbons, and will rebuild Apogees for a reasonable cost. I have bought three near mint Apogees off of eBay and Audiogon.