Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

Dev,

Ball bearing? My BN does not. Green inside the platter but my bearing is similar to my AC which is a steel shaft that is convex on top. Are you sure you had a ball bearing?

Any photos. From what I understand they are all the same design and the shaft can be changed but the platter is more difficult to change the sleeve.

Aside from your troubles with design, you did mention liking the sound a lot originally. What changed. L

My experience has been either cartridge setup or phono stage loading make a huge difference. As for my turntable, one thing I found is if the spring based suspension system I custom made was loaded wrong it would collapse the entire analogue experience. Bass would muddy and highs would lose extension. The key is that the music must not travel into the arm and effect the performance of the cartridge.

I have redone the set up on a few friends systems and the improvement in sound was incredible. I feel that you can bring the best turntable and compare it to a simple Rega and the Rega will outperform of the setup allows for such.

Peterayer,
The whole post is Brinkmanship, you just have to look at it with a sense of humour. I suspect the Brinkmann owners are busy listening to music.

The funny thing is nobody seems to get the point that Dev had a Raven or 3, went to an old Micro. Do the Raven owners club seriously think someone would upgrade to a turntable that sounds worse ?

Same with Syntax, he can obviously afford a Raven, if it was better than what he has he'd buy it.

The funny thing is nobody seems to get the point that Dev had a Raven or 3, went to an old Micro. Do the Raven owners club seriously think someone would upgrade to a turntable that sounds worse ?

Yes Dover.....that is a 'funny thing'.
There are many posts on this Forum from Dev 'pushing' the whole TW turntable menu.....from the Raven 1, the AC1, the AC3 to the Black Knight.
And the costs involved in this exercise are quite considerable.
You would have to believe that Dev had heard many other turntables before investing in the Raven brand........from his numerous posts, you can see that he had.
So the Ravens at many stages.....sounded better to him than other turntables?
Then suddenly.....not?
That's fair enough.
We all grow in our 'upgrading' quest.
Yet peculiarly I don't find many posters who 'rubbish' the equipment they owned along the way?
If the Ravens sounded better than other turntables at a previous stage in Dev's development.......perhaps the old Micro will meet the same fate at a future time?......perhaps when Dev's infatuation with Syntax subsides?
In any case.......how can you trust his fickleness?

Halcro -
Yes I do agree with you. I have seen some audiophiles go complete circles in TT's, finally ending up where they started.
Unfortunately analogue is a "sum of the parts" scenario, and I have seen too many mismatched TT's/arms/cartridges, notwithstanding poor set up from even experienced audiophiles such that dissatisfaction sets in. What happens is they "upgrade" but the cycle of discontent from mismatching and poor set up starts all over again.

Dgad

Funny you mention your spring suspension being off with muddy bass. Sounded a bit like mine but I mentioned slow bass.
I put 2 additional springs under my platform to make 6 and the improvement in the bass is substantional. A lot tighter giving more detail through the mids and upper frequencies. Overall the table is a lot more enjoyable playing music.

This just goes to show the double edged sword of high end analog audio. All a bit frustrating really as I am sure there is better performance available.

Considering the TW turntables (& lots of others), Is there a isolation system that either TW recommends or that users out there believe is the best to get the most out of the TW or any non suspended turntable?

Cheers