Holzhauer, I've heard a couple of the pairs of speakers on your list, and do not think that they compare to the B&W's. I feel as though you should give a disclamer in your posts, warning people of your own personal preferences. I would be willing to wager that B&W sells more 802's in a week than Shahinian sells in a year. Lots of people like the 802's. If you are going to give someone advice, you should include these speakers in your advice. By the way, stereophile is a joke.