Cable Burn In

Thanks everyone for the education on cables and burn-in. I feel like I now know what I need to know as it applies to my needs.

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Cable direction, other than cables with networks, is nonsense.
Cable burn-in is most probably 100% nonsense.

>>>You sound awfully sure of yourself. Are those conclusions based on experience, physics, what other pseudo skeptics told you, a Google search, your gut reaction? Finally, do you have ANY evidence to support either of those statements? Share, share....

@n80  I'm not sure what you might have learned from this thread except that there are those who do believe in cable burn-in and those who don't.  I can't see how it hurts you to be open to it.  If you hear no difference after time passes, you've lost nothing.  If you do perceive an improvement in the openness of your sound then yippee!  

One last thought.  In the end, the issue is informed by your world view.  If you believe that every phenomenon we experience in life is quantifiable then the intangibles will never matter to you.  In my case, I've experienced too many phenomena that I would have no scientific explanation for to believe that there are not things happening in highly resolving audio systems that is beyond our ability to quantify.

Enjoy the journey!

hifiman5 said:

"  I can't see how it hurts you to be open to it. "

All I said was that I feel like I know what I need to know as it applies to my needs. That doesn't really fall on one side or other of the issue.

It seems like everyone wants this to be an all-or-nothing issue. I don't see why. I can comfortably say that some smart people here feel like burn-in is a significant issue but that for my purposes and situation is unlikely to have any impact on my listening pleasure. And as I said before, I'm going to plug them in and listen to them, and again, what else would I do with them? And again, the odds of me (a beginner) hearing this difference over the days it takes to change the SQ are slim.

The only other option would be for me to buy cables that were burned-in at the factory and that is simply money I'm not going to spend regardless of the potential perceived SQ improvement. It just would not make sense at this point in my dabbling in this hobby.

hifiman5 also said:

" One last thought.  In the end, the issue is informed by your world view.  If you believe that every phenomenon we experience in life is quantifiable then the intangibles will never matter to you. "

Again, I think this implies that your world view requires you to be on an extreme end of every issue. Don't get me wrong, I am not a relativist by a long long shot. And I firmly believe in elements of experience and reality that transcend the empirical. But certainly there are experiences that are easily tangible and quantifiable and there are experiences that are not. My world view does not require me to put all experiences in one box.

OP - You said, "Again, I think this implies that your world view requires you to be on an extreme end of every issue."

All I said is to be open to things that may or may not be explainable or measurable.  I don't believe at being on the extreme end of audio issues.  If you want to talk about being "extreme" I would consider the "everything is quantifiable" stance to be the extreme position.🤔