Can speakers be both "big" and "accurate" ?

~~~~If you get a chance to hear a set of Infinity RS1, your search may be over. A second amp will be needed. Huge sound, scary accurate, cabinets disappear as the sound engulfs the listener. Rarely come up for sale, guess why?

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Redwoodgarden gets no argument from me! Klipschorns, and most of the Klipsch boxes that Paul W. Klipsch designed are the outright bang-for-buck bargains in big and accurate sound as far as I'm concerned. The current crop of Klipsch speakers that were put out by the company after it was sold to Paul's cousin, are NO COMPARISON to those speakers in the Hertiage and Classic lines that Paul designed (some of which they still produce, though I'd opt for looking for vintage examples). If you don't want to be limited by using your corners, try out the La Scala, which uses the same drivers as the Khorns, but in a smaller package that is forward firing. I use and LOVE LaScala's and have heard them A/B'd side by side with Khorns. Khorns have a more authorative bass, and, depending upon your room and corners, can throw a pretty incredible sound stage. La Scala's are no slouch in either department, but are scaled down as is their size (whe I say scaled down, they are the size of two large dishwashers!!). I actually thought the LaScala's sounded a bit more dynamic in their presentation and a tad more forward. The only downside of using Klipsch horn speakers, is that with your SS Bryston amp they will most certainly NOT be singing their hearts out as they could with tubes. I'm going to get some flames hear, so I'm donning my flame-retardent suit now, but combining Klipsch Classic/Heritage horn speakers with an SS amp is a total WASTE of a GREAT pair of speakers! Yes, you will get big LOUD sound from those 104db efficiency horns, but you will be missing out on some of the most spectacular subtleties in dynamics, detail and clarity that you could have if you were using a decent tube amplifier. And the beauty of it is, you don't need much power at all. My 300B SET amps putting out 8 watts per side, will drive my LaScala's loud enough to drive anyone from the room (my room is only 12 X 15), while still remaining musical, detailed, dynamic and crystal clear! No doubt good vintage Klipsch will give you what you are looking for. They are difficult and expensive to ship, so finding a pair local to you would be best. They can be had at outright bargain prices sometimes, as Redwoodgarden points out. If you like smaller boxes you could also look at the Klipsch Forte's and Chorus speakers, which are also excellent speakers, but for big sound, they will not compete with the Khorns or La Scala's for what I think you might be calling 'Big Sound'....still, they are excellent speakers for the money!

Find a 2-way rear ported speaker that goes down to around 32Hz. and you'll do fine.

My room is the same dimensions as yours which does not need to be taken up by big Panel Speaker's and the like.

JM Labs,Revel,JMR(Jean Marie Reynaud),DeCapos,ProAc's,Legacy and Canton I would look at .I know Canton sells speaker's that go down below 30Hz.JM Labs I do not know about ,but I know they use great drivers.

You have alot to choose from and I would look for quality sound.The list can go on and you have to go hear for yourself and when you hear it you'll know.It's kind of magical when you finally find the sound you are in search for.Sometimes it takes yrs. though.

I had thought that Panels' were the speaker's I liked the most until I bought a set and had to give up a place that had a giant living room.Then I had to revert back to Box speaker's and I could live with thm,but they did not have the transparency that the panels did.Then I heard NEAR's which had the same trait's,took up less room and had dynamics I could not experience with Panels.BTW I had listtened to alot of Panels Accustats,Maggies,ML's.

Just keep going out and listening and you'll find the Speaker soound your after.Remember to take your own music that you know really well also.

Wish people could hear my 2-Ways because they have enough Bass for all ,but the most discriminating Bass Freak!I have a Sub,but feel I really do not need it.

Happy Hunting!

Avalon Eidolon

Can a large speaker fill the room and be accurate as well? Oh my yes. Take for example an Apogee Duetta Signature. Tall (5 foot)planar two way that goes for about $1400-1800 around here. Will most definately fill the room with sound and can be astonishingly accurate from the upper bass on up, especially on vocals. Bass easily extends into the 30 hz range but is best used with a GOOD sub and a GOOD electronic x-over (like a Marchand or Bryston)to cut the lows off of the bass panel. Several subs have pretty good internal electronic x-overs with transparent high pass sections.

Properly set up and fed (which your 4B-ST is certainly cabable of doing) you'll be glued to your seat and wittness to an at times breath taking musical experience.