Curious what people think is the best "value" high end speaker (~5K to 15K)


I am on a long search for speakers and just curious what people think is the best value both new or used in speakers ranging from around $5000 to $15000? I have a set of Paradigm S8's (V1) and love them but looking for another set for another set in a different listening area (25 x 20?, maybe larger).  I love the full sound of JBL's and looking for something in that range (it also helps that JBL's seem to hold their value better than most, which will be a consideration). The only drawback to JBL is footprint.  I prefer a smaller footprint which is why after reading I hope to listen to several B&W 800 series but open to suggestions across the board.  used Watt Puppies? Revels?  I am curious about peoples experience with McIntosh XR100's. 
gene3x
I am not God or Jesus. You need to focus more on the facts. And what sound is and how music works. We are not talking about rocket science. People need to get out of their lazy chair and read about music and how our emotion works. 

Like the people who work in audio needs to spend a lot more time in doing research in both sound and vision. And spend time in learning more about sound&vision.

We have access to a lot of data by the internet. People don't use it enough. When I write something people always make it so personal. That is why I stopped using brands and products. They still make it personal or they focus only on products.

It is not about me. You need to look further. People are always talking about brands and products. I can garantee you for 100% that this will never bring you that far. Audio is all about sound. And sound is all about the properties it owns. When you do not start to learn to understand it. You will always limit yourself with an incomplete trial and error created system. With even many faults and limitations.
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When people do not know a lot about sound and music how for God sake you can think and believe that you can understand audio?

During many discussions I had with people who work in audio, they had one thing in common. They all became aware that they have no foundation after our discussion. Before I had these discussions with them they never thought about it.

It proofs that the awareness of most people is rather limited. In 1998 I knew I had to learn to extract the DNA of each part. But I had no idea how to create this at that moment. Thousands of hours made me able to think and work in properties.

Without the awareness in 1998 it would never have been possible to create it. When I talk about the way we work, all people understand that it makes sense. We just work on aspects/properties which exists. You need a real foundation on which it all is based.

People often start to laugh when they realize that trial and error is doing audio by random order. Now they are aware that is lacks a foundation. But........before that never have thought about it.

When we demonstarte a Tru-Fi system people hear their own music at a superior level in precision and layers. When music is being played in a big holographic 3D stage, voices and instruments are standing fully free and separate in the room.

Most people play their music is a rather small 2D stage and often the stage is not that wide either.

What their systems do is compressing the stage depth, width and height of the music. Humans can perceive sound in a 3D spectrum. So it would make sense that an audiosystem creates a stage just as in real.

I have done thousands of tests. The facts proof that almost all audio products are 2-dimensional. When an audiosystem is able to create a wide and deep stage. Voices become more apparent and also intimate. The last part has a huge influence on our emotion. I used it when I did run an audioshop

I had a 2D and 3D system always ready for shootout. When people heard the 3D system they all described it as more intimate and intense. That is why I want to use conservatorium students during presentations. So people can learn what I did learn and experience during small classical live concerts.

Music is in my life one of the most important things in life. It is my goal to bring all people more close to the emotion of the music. To feel the connection and become one with their music.


Bo, I believe you have nothing further to add here. 

Why not relocate to another thread and bore another group of posters?