Did the Old Receivers Sound Good?


Before the high end started, we had all these receivers and integrated amps from Pioneer, Kenwood, Sansui, Sherwood, etc., all with incredible specs.  Then somehow we decided that specs didn't matter and we started moving to the more esoteric stuff from Ampzilla, Krell and whoever, but the specs were not as good.  My question is - Did the old Japanese stuff with the great specs sound better? I don't remember.  I'm asking because many seem to be moving back to the "specs are everything" mindset and I was thinking about all that old stuff with so many zeros to the right of the decimal point. 

chayro

I've owned Modern gear, Tube and Solid State. Vintage gear sound better once restored, not including receivers in the list. 

Owned a Marantz PM8006, Marantz 7T Marantz 16B blew it away. No comparison in detail, bass, musical enjoyment. I heard things in the recording completely masked by the Marantz PM8006 being $1500. Your looking at 8-10k for new gear to match at least. 

Now there is a Marantz PM7200 that does class A made in 2000's Cap upgrades and upgraded the power transformer to toroidal transformer. Very special amp! 

HK430 has amazing amplifier section, Add a tube preamp into HK430 with La Scala's. you would be in for a shock. :) 

 

the HK430 is one of the receivers that got blown away in direct comparison w the new little Marantz nr1200. it wasn't even close.  I was disappointed because although the HK looks way retro-cool, and it does sound good for a vintage, in honest listening it doesn't hold up to even modest moderns.  

 

I had a Yamaha CR 820 and some Tannoy Cheviots in the late 70's. That combination is my baseline today. It was pretty much perfect to me. To each his own, right?

 

hk430 preamp section kinda sucks. They used subpar pots. Amplifier section is where its at!

I have to heavy upgraded Citation 12 and Citation 16. Similar design to the hk430. Sound very good!

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