Hey,pops.3,years on sat.I finally got a 20.00 Radio Shack outdoor antenna.KILLS The Direct feed.I'm about 60 mi.(air) from all the transmitters.I have a good line of sight. I have RR proj.I hated the "mashed potatoes"look to the grass as the camera pans,and the pinstripes that dissapear,with movement.I don't know if you get that with glass tube,but it drove me crazy. None of that w/over the air antenna. Plus saving $6 a month,my antenna pays for itself fast + I get ALL the local channels.