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DO CABLES REALLY MATTER?

Yes they do.  I’m not here to advocate for any particular brand but I’ve heard a lot and they do matter. High Fidelity reveal cables, Kubala Sosna Elation and Clarity Cable Natural. I’m having a listening session where all of them is doing a great job. I’ve had cables that were cheaper in my system but a nicely priced cable that matches your system is a must.  I’m not here to argue what I’m not hearing because I have a pretty good ear.  I’m enjoying these three brands today and each is presenting the music differently but very nicely. Those who say cables don’t matter. Get your ears checked.  I have a system that’s worth about 30 to 35k retail.  Now all of these brands are above 1k and up but they really are performing! What are your thoughts. 
calvinj
helomech
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Funny how the complaint of people have an "axe to grind" only ever goes one way on this forum.
Always aimed at someone who may be more skeptical about the claims of cable manufacturers. But if you fall in line with "of course cables make a difference" then everything thrown the other way is forgiven.

calvinj, for instance, has made this thread to declare to all skeptics high end cables make a difference.
And over and over keeps disparaging the hearing of anyone who disagrees with him. As he just as yet again "for those of us with good ears they make a difference."

Well, what can some cloth eared person who may be more skeptical say in the face of the proclamations of Golden Ears that their Golden Ears can’t be wrong? Nothing much but to bow on obeisance I guess...dare we voice an alternative view "why do you have such an Axe to grind???!!!

I dunno. I sure see a lot of what looks like an axe to grind being tossed at anyone skeptical about high end cabling. This thread being yet another example.

I believe cables make small differences in the context of high end systems but I have to agree with this post. According to the calvinj, any skeptics are only weirdo time wasters who talk "goofy." He posted the question yet was already resolute in his belief. Seems to me he is wasting his own time.
calvinj OP
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Don’t take my words out of context. I will explain so that I’m clear. There are posters on this thread who would go on these type of threads and make up words and play goofy games with the posts by making up goofy weirdo words. Like they were Marvin the Martian or somebody. They know who they are I don’t have to call names. Anyway the post isn’t about me disagreeing with those who don’t do the Cable thing.  Anyway agree and do what you please. It’s your system. Enjoy. 
calvinj OP
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Anyway quantum teleportation is goofy weirdo talk! Not bragging on the cost of my system. I have friends that bought system 4 or 5 times the cost of mine. I only mentioned cost to be relative for the readers. Anyway no need to brag on what I paid for my system. I think for me it’s not a lot. 
calvinj OP
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For me they make a difference for,some they don’t.  If they don’t enjoy your music.
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@cd318.

No one as far as I know in music or film claims that they can improve upon the original recording

Isn't this what MQA claims to do? 

Though that subject is not to do with cables. 

However rubbish components and speakers (or just one of these connected with an expensive cable) will effect the sound. I do not believe a statement that "expensive cables make a good difference" is correct. There are many factors that can be in place effecting a listener's hearing judgement. I am confused as to the OP's question, or intention. Are you asking whether we, the readers or those also posting back, endorse the three cables you have enjoyed in your listening session? And therefore agree that these are well matched to a 35k system? And somehow, if we haven't heard them, we need our ears checked? Or our wallets cleaned out?

You can make a photo or movie appear 'better' by photoshopping it or re-digitising a movie such as the original Star Wars. But the original data stays the original data. And enhancing it such as the above does make a better product, but does it meet the original creators intention?

Indeed, cables may influence the sound of reproduction to the final end, the speaker, but is that sound the intention of the creator (artist, sound engineer or post production technician?

Are you happy distorting the eventual sound or want to hear the sound as closely reproduced to the original? Are you happy with MQA as this is claimed by many digital listeners to be superior in sound?

Sepia photos have a ageless quality about them. They are not the same photoshopped, except to correct the omissions in the original image. I expect that original recordings on vinyl are the same, closely matched to the original intent of the music, which is why they command a premium price over re-engineered pressings.

Cables are designed to transmit relevant electrical data from source to end point. If there is interference in the middle, cartridge pickup to speaker driver, then expensive cable may amplify errors, or make no difference to the ultimate sound reached by each individuals ears.

To finish with a question, "What are your thoughts?" invites a full appraisal of the OP's post. These are my thoughts. They do not invite response.


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