Do I need a sut?


I purchased an Ortofon MC2000 cart from a fellow A'Goner, it is very low output .05mV, my phono pre is a Herron VTPH-2 which has 69db of gain and my pre is a Herron VTSP-3a(r02) 14db gain.
The cart sounds wonderful, but with such a low gain I have to turn up the volume by quite a lot. If I had, another source at that volume, I wouldn't be able to stand it. With the volume turned up so high I get a fair amount of noise between tracks. 
Should I be looking at an sut or just live with it the way it is? I found an Ortofon at a decent price, it has 24db of gain. Would that be ok to go into the mc input on the VTPH-2? The mm gain is 48db, if I plugged it in there I would only gain 3db(if I'm doing my math correctly) I will also be contacting Keith, but I thought I would ask here too.
Thanks
Jeff
jdodmead

@jmcgrogan2 , the best SUT for MC 2000 is T-2000 because

this SUT is made for MC2000 and 2000,mk2. Choosing a SUT

for a cart is not easy. Not only impedance but also inductance

matching is needed. However inductance is seldom mentioned

by technical specs. What does not ''match'' is the price of the cart

and the price of the SUT. Considering the price of the MC 2000

my suggestion is to try Jasmine lp 2 phono-pre. I used this one

before I bought Klyne. No problem to drive MC 2000 and impressive

considering the price (+/-$600). Besides it can be used with

whatever other cart.



Dear @jdodmead : Yes, it’s the best you can do for now because even with that noise level what you listen through the MC2000 is just very fine.

You own very good speakers that I listened many years ago, Unfortunatelly for that cartridge its sensitivity is a little low around: 88dbs.

""" That makes this cart really, really expensive. """, well things are that the cartridge is an expensive one when in those times was only one of two cartridges in the 1K price range.

Even with an active high gain SS phonolinepreamp something that you have to really care with this cartridge is that your TT and tonearm ( it self. ) stays perfectly grounded and very important is the cable between the tonearm and the phono stage not only the shieklding and cable quality level but its " orientation/route/directuion to the PS input connectors " that sometimes helps with that noise levels. I think you have to make some tests about and see what happens with.

Anyway, enjoy it !.

R.
If you like where the MC2000 is taking you an SUT that will work and suit your price ($759) is the MFA 632 at a 1:100 ratio

Scroll down this page for instance of its use with the MC2000ii
http://gpoint-audio.com/our-collection/music-first-audio/
Dear @folkfreak : """   that will work and suit your price """

It's obvious that you have no single idea of the MC 2000 very high quality performance levels that even can/could outperfoms what you have with the right system.

I can't imagine ( but it can happens. ) that an audiophile can ( by ignorance. ) " destroy " the magnificent signal information coming from a 10K+ LOMC cartridge using a 700 dollars SUT where even exist  not something as essential and critical as its frequency response range ! ! !

How can you recomend it? it does not matters what  your SUT are developing in your system.  

Obviously something wrong down there that added those useless STs with the Q3s.

For me as I told @jdodmead  it's better to stay as he is than spend money in that way and in a company that are " experts " in transformers but can´t gives any single spec other than the ratio.  ? ? ? 

Yes, for you is not important but I'm talking about QUALITY LEVELS not on what " I like it ".

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
@rauliruegas as you very well know (if you are as well informed as you claim) MFA is the hi-fi arm of Stevens & Billington, a long established transformer maker. MFA/S&B wind their own transformers to order. The base model, which the 632 series are based around (I believe) is the TX-103, specs on that are available here
http://www.stevens-billington.co.uk/page103.htm

As all MFA products are built to order you can be sure they will match the needs of your cartridge (ratio, impedance, inductance etc).

Anyway I'm not trying to shill for MFA, I'm sure Bob's are just as good, but could not let Raul's slur go by