Do NOT Blow Your Entire Budget on Two Channel Audio


Yes, two channel audio is here, and is not going away. However, object based audio is delightful, widely available on Tidal and Apple Music, and should be in the listening room of every music lover on the planet, not just "audiophiles. If you plan to be a music fan a year from now start building your object based audio system today. You will need:

1) A receiver/processor capable of Dolby Atmos.

2) A subscription to Tidal or Apple music.

3) A Firestick, ATV, or Nvidia Shield.

4) A minimum of 7 timber matched speakers and a subwoofer.

Once you experienced stereo would you ever go back to only mono? No, you would build a system capable of either mono or stereo. Now that object based audio has arrived do the same thing. Build a system capable of mono, stereo, AND object based audio. When Elton John heard Rocket Man in an object based format for the first time why did he demand to convert his entire catalog to Atmos? If you don’t know, then you need to go listen to Rocket Man in a good Atmos setup ASAP.

So, take your budget, DIVERSIFY, and get a good Atmos capable receiver or processor. Object based audio is NOT last decades surround sound or home theater. It is for MUSIC first, if you need a recommendation on how to allocate your budget feel free to post a question. Most importantly, you don’t NEED two systems, one for music and one for movies. A good object based audio system can play two channel music just fine. A two channel system on the other hand can’t play object based audio without a proper processor or receiver.

Greg Penny talks mixing Rocket Man in Atmos.

https://youtu.be/ggzfcUKDqdo?feature=shared

 

kota1

These forums are so much fun.

It’s great to read about contributors "immersing" themselves in new experiences and willing to share those results with a high degree of enthusiasm. However, putting personal stamp of approval on a concept is a bit different than proclaiming that functioning adults should abandon their fundamental beliefs in system architecture and budgetary considerations and follow THEIR lead.

Coming from one who spent decades designing and installing 2-channel and multi-channel systems:

As I mentioned in a previous topic/thread, "the suspsension of disbelief" is the goal of a sound reproduction experience in the home. That is to say, for a moment in time we cease to believe that we’re listening to a fascimile of a live event, artificially created in our space. But, rather, in the room WITH the performers/performance. Many have found 2 channels (done right) provides our ears (and, brains) with enough information to render an accurate enough image to become believable as a "live" performance. It’s been happening for quite a long time.

Back in the day when we were putting together some pretty decent HT systems, a common objection we heard was: "My room isn’t big enough for surround sound." So, I was motivated to design and install a 5.1 system in a 30" x 30" replica of a British phone booth. (B&W mini monitors mounted in a custom ceiling with JL Audio thin profile subs in the floor. Outboard electronics. Control via the antique-looking pay phone). Doing the math, it was the functional equiviant of a 150" image in an "average" living room, delivering 4,000 watts of power. It was an effective demo for the "small room" customers. Our store was in a college market and the highlight was when two coeds decided to see if they could both fit in the phone booth together. It was summer, and it was hot, and they were dressed "appropriately" for the weather conditions. I wish I would have videoed their attempts to egress the space. I could have gotten a sponsor and made a small contribution to my retirement account.

But, here’s where I take the side of 2-channel for the ultimate reproduction of music. Assuming 7-channels vs 2, that’s 3.5 times the number of speakers and amplifier channels. Using the "2x rule" as an example, when 2x the investment is placed in a piece of audio gear, "stuff" happens. Price considerations are relaxed and better/robust parts are used on the inside (and, chassis/cabinet integrity -- on the outside as well). The results can range from "very significant" to "mind-blowing" depending on a number of factors. In short, much higher resolution, accompanied by a reduction in musical artifacts, sypathetic resonances, microphonics, etc. Our brains have more/better information to process and less "false" information to take away from the experience (including reduction of listening fatigue). Now, substitute 3.5x as the variable and the comparision in the delivery of accurate music into the space is, well, no comparison.

The other element I’d like to introduce is that different social interactions require different environments for many. Music is quite personal to some. Shared for others. Different spaces. Different agendas. Different hardware, software, friends, and refreshments. One size/technology does not fit all.

OP, thanks for the post. Good comments by all.

@waytoomuchstuff 

I wish I would have videoed their attempts to egress the space.

Too bad back in the day we didn't have smart phone videos for these moments.

So, great post, you are obviously skilled both a consumer and as a dealer, both in 2 CH and HT.

This brings the question, what is your favorite album/track in atmos music?

 

 

Coherence. I like my speakers to all sound pretty much the same. That’s not hard with 7.1, but it sure is with atmos. Ever seen a squadron of Quad ESL's hanging 2’ from the ceiling?

@terry9 

Coherence. I like my speakers to all sound pretty much the same.

Great point, my Paradigm active speakers are heavy and I was able to mount the front height channels on tall stands and the rear height channels on some heavy duty wall mounts. But the VOG channel above the MLP was a problem. I called Paradigm and cutting holes in my ceiling was a non starter. They recommended the Cinema 100's as they were small and used the same type of tweeters as my other speakers. You can see the end result in the pics of my system.

 

No.  Not for me.

I've had a decent Atmos-capable 9.2.2 Onkyo HT receiver for a few years and I still run 5.1

I have a smaller "media room" or family room as it used to be called (14' x 28').  I have no idea where I would place additional speakers and I'm more than happy with what I have.

FWIW - I don't have any plans to "upgrade" my modest dedicated 2-channel setup, either.