Do you think you need a subwoofer?

Dear Johnnyb53: +++++ " In system tuning, optimizing full-range speakers (let alone minimonitors) for imaging *and* bass response can drive you crazy. A sub enables you to tune for both. " +++++

This is one of the real subs integration advantages.

Regards and enjoy the music.
raul.

Dear Chad: +++++ " , the VMPS with outboard cross-over and a high power Caver amp with gain control for the woofers is all I need, Organ notes no problem. They claim usable bass down 10db at 16hz, " +++++

Well, this seems to me like you already have a subwoofer through your VMPS speakers, so you don't need an additional one. Btw, which croosover frequency do you choose?

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear friends: Almost always we can to be rewarding our time/efforts trying to improve our audio system setting.

Yesterday I wonder what could be happen if I set up my subwoofers a little higher from the floor and this is what I do, four inches total height ( maybe in the future I could try a higher one but for the moment I'm very satisfied. )

The change was/is remarkable: the bass is more tight and with better definition( pitch ), less " bass noise/garbage ", better midbass and clearer/clean midrange/high frequencies response. Awesome !!!!!!!!!

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Rauliruegas...Not surprising to me. My subwoofer systems, each consisting of a 15" and a 12" driver, has the centerpoint of the two drivers about 40 inches above the floor. This puts them near centered behind my Maggies, which was a design objective.

By the way, I also elevated the Maggies by about six inches, and that helped too.

I have always been a fan of elevating speakers, including suspending them from the ceiling if the wife permits. (They usually don't).

I stopped suspending my speakers when I bought the 350 pound per side Duntech Sovereigns.